My question about the Arcane

[Raetary]

Does this mean my Mage is shooting mana from his hands?

you are burning or transforming mana into arcane.

[Aquamonkey]

If mana was water, arcane energy would be steam pressure. Basically, you're taking mana and burning/sacrificing it.

you are burning or transforming mana into arcane.

That's not how water/steam pressure works. Yes, you can transform water into steam pressure, but you aren't burning the water in this process. You are adding heat from an external source (burning coal/wood, nuclear fission, etc.) to turn water into steam.

[Cheapnecrolyte]

That's not how water/steam pressure works.

Yes it is.

Yes

Thanks for agreeing

you aren't burning the water in this process.

Oh, but you are. Steam is derived from burning water.

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On the subject of Arcane, and before we know more about it, I used to think that it is a sort of magical energy conjured by the magi themselves - exclusive to the practitioners on Azeroth.

So, when I started playing in TBC and made a Draenei mage, I thought that she is converting Light to Arcane, and was fascinated by that concept!

[Cheapnecrolyte]

Water, Earth, Air, Fire. Long ago, people used to believe demonic power (or warlock magics) came from the place where demons (and their demonic powers) are from (the Twisting Nether), but then....everything changed when Sean Copeland attacked...

[Rathbourne]

Oh, but you are. Steam is derived from burning water.

...Wat....Steam is derived by heating water,not burning it.The stuff being burned to produce heat is fuel(coal,wood etc.)

[Aquamonkey]

Yes it is.

Oh, but you are. Steam is derived from burning water.

Nope. Not even close to how a steam engine or steam turbine works, or even just turning water into steam.

[Cheapnecrolyte]

Nope.

Yup

...Wat....Steam is derived by heating water,not burning it.

Heat is hot and hot things burn. Stop pretending like you need a fire to heat things.

[Aquamonkey]

Yup

Phase change of liquid water into water vapor is not the same thing as the chemical process of burning. This is 5th grade level science...

[Cheapnecrolyte]

Phase change of liquid water into water vapor is not the same thing as the chemical process of burning.

Did I state they are/were the same? No I didn't.

[StationaryHawk]

Did I state they were the same? No I didn't.

I mean, this is pretty off-topic, but...

Oh, but you are. Steam is derived from burning water.

[Cheapnecrolyte]

I mean, this is pretty off-topic, but...

But, what breh breh? Steam is derived by heating water and water can be heated by doing what? Burning it with heat, which is hot. Common sense.

[Aquamonkey]

But, what breh breh? Steam is derived by heating water and water can be heated by doing what? Burning it with heat, which is hot. Common sense.

You aren't burning the water. Heating something up isn't the same as burning. Most nuclear reactors work by heating water into steam, nothing is burning. Burning is a chemical reaction, phase change is not. Dumping water into a fire is not burning the water. Exposing water directly to a flame is not burning the water.

[Cheapnecrolyte]

You aren't burning the water.

Oh, but you are.

Heating something up isn't the same as burning.

Yes it is. Have you yet to understand that you don't need a fire to burn things? Clearly.

heating water into steam

It seems like you're not smart enough to realize this, but I'm not referring to the H2O molecule water. I'm referring to the visible liquid. And you do know how to evaporate water and produce steam? By heating it until it boils.

nothing is burning.

Something is clearly burning, and that's your...

Dumping water into a fire is not burning the water.

Fire =/= Heat

Exposing water directly to a flame is not burning the water.

Fire =/= Heat

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Now that Aquamonger knows that fire isn't heat, let's get back on topic: Volatile arcane energies are stated to be of the Nether. The Twisting Nether is stated to be a demonic realm and the energies of a demonic realm would be demonic like the realm they're in, yet volatile arcane energies--the lifeblood of a nascent titan--are not demonic somehow.

[Aquamonkey]

Oh, but you are.

Phase changing water is not burning it.

Yes it is. Have you yet to understand that you don't need a fire to burn things? Clearly.

Burning is a chemical reaction. Even if you want to go by the other definitions of burning such as the sensation of touching something hot, or a radiation burn... those are still chemical reactions.

It seems like you're not smart enough to realize this, but I'm not referring to the H2O molecule water. I'm referring to the visible liquid. And you do know how to evaporate water and produce steam? By heating it until it boils.

Heat =/= burning. The visible liquid is not burning, it is phase changing.

Fire =/= Heat

Heat =/= burning.

[Cheapnecrolyte]

Heat =/= burning.

Heat = Hot = Hot things burn = Heat burns

Heat =/= burning.

Heat = Hot = Hot things burn = Heat burns

Heat is as burning as satan's <inserts explicit...>

[Aquamonkey]

Heat = Hot = Hot things burn = Heat burns

Heat = Hot = Hot things burn = Heat burns

Heat is as burning as satan's <inserts explicit...>

"Hot things burn" is the sensation of burning, which is not the same as the physical process. Both of which are chemical reactions, completely different from phase changes.

Also, Heat =/= Hot. Heat is a transfer of energy. "Hot" is a relative measure of temperature.

[Cheapnecrolyte]

Hold on a tick...a canon source referring to arcane energy as diabolical.

http://wow.gamepedia.com/Quest:Our_Man_in_Karazhan

Madness. Insanity!

I don´t know what Nalice is up to down there, but the entire basement radiates with diabolical arcane energy. She´s got an entire cult worshipping her as a goddess.

If we´re going to take her out, we have to do it soon. I hope you´re ready for this!

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Hold on a tick...a canon source referring to arcane energy as diabolical.

many non-mages refer to magic as a whole as evil.

But what is your basic point? that magic has to follow the laws of thermodynamics, and that therefore any spellcast ultimately leads to more fel/entropy?

(also burning is oxidation, nothing more nothing less)

[Aquamonkey]

Hold on a tick...a canon source referring to arcane energy as diabolical.

Zazzo is talking about how Nalice is using the arcane energy, not describing arcane energy in general.