The Liberal Blind Spot

[turboether]

The further left you go, the more indistinguishable you become from the right. The far left, the most aggressively against opposing views, make even classic liberals that are closer to centre uneasy. The furthest extremes are both unbridled madness.

[Spectral]

listen, I don't want to hear shit about how evangelicals are so so discriminated against while they were busy actively passing laws and blocking progress and actively discriminating.

Seems like just a Who, Whom situation then?

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listen, I don't want to hear shit about how evangelicals are so so discriminated against while they were busy actively passing laws and blocking progress and actively discriminating.

Yeah so be bigoted against them...

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listen, I don't want to hear shit about how evangelicals are so so discriminated against while they were busy actively passing laws and blocking progress and actively discriminating.

I too don't want to hear shit about how blacks are discriminated against while they are so busy committing a lot more crimes on average compared to any other race.

What you're advocating is that discrimination is all fine and dandy as long as it's against the people i don't like.

[Triskell]

You say yes, you thought of responding to what he actually said and then you write this nonsense, which still is not. Clearly it's not possible for you to actually do so.

The whole Conservative paranoia that everyone is out to get them is getting really tired. Cons need to step away from FoxNews and other crap "news" sites. While I am NOT saying that there are not people opposed to far rightwing crap who pull crap, it is also completely possible that some of the incidents are being perpetrated by Rightwingers trying to get the base all worked up and further the "everyone is out to get us narrative". Add to that the possibility that the disruptions are being made by people who want to disrupt for the sake of disruption, and the people who may be rightleaning, but view some of the far right leaning discussions as false and crap, and you have a large number of possibilities for the disruptions. However, none of that fits into the "liberals are out to get us" narrative so is ignored.

[Themius]

Yeah so be bigoted against them...

That's not bigoted I just do not care.

"Oh boo hoo we're do discriminated again, by the way I don't want to serve no gay people in my store."

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I too don't want to hear shit about how blacks are discriminated against while they are so busy committing a lot more crimes on average compared to any other race.

What you're advocating is that discrimination is all fine and dandy as long as it's against the people i don't like.

At least I'm not advocating passing jim crow era laws.

that's a more complex issue that has a lot to do with socioeconomics and history,.

[Triskell]

THis is the logical result of a society that abandoned objective knowledge or factual truth as a measure of an ideas merit.

Now this whole "every idea is of equal worth, I just want to have a discussion" has led to this.

Where an institution supposed to teach knowledge has to spend time discussing and disproving horseshit. Now you cant just have a biology class, you have to "talk about creationism' now you cant just talk about climate science, now you have to wade through all the anti science useless bullshit that oil corps KNOW isnt true, but has been adopted by conservatives as fact anyway.

THat's the problem with reducing a viewpoint to generalities or a catch all term.

Do you want a racist? A climate change denier? an Anti vaxxer? A young earth creationist? Any of those in an institution based on teaching scientific fact? Course you dont. But lump all of those together under "Conservative" (except for anti vaxx cuz a lot of em are liberal idiots) and all of a sudden it's discrimination against conservatives.

I dont know when scientific fact became a platform for ideological debate but it's a load of crap and it has got to stop.

Perfect summation of a lot of the situation!

[Paranoid Android]

Colleges/Universities have always been labeled liberal for the most part. So the people who rail against this would love if it swung in the complete opposite.

Intellectuals, aka professors, are liberal minded and thinking. So we should give them shock therapy or a re-education camp? As for students, it is the first time they are out on their own and make their own choices.

Most youth have free thinking ideas and thus are attracted to liberal ideas. Then some who grow older and have worries about their financials become more conservative. Should we want re-education of the old because they become too conservative?

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At least I'm not advocating passing jim crow era laws.

that's a more complex issue that has a lot to do with socioeconomics and history,.

Well at least I'm not advocating killing all blacks & women so i guess it's fine if i simply don't hire those particular demographics for no other reasons.

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That's not bigoted I just do not care.

I always comment on internet forums about things I do not care about.

[Akani]

Yeah so be bigoted against them...

Holding them accountable for what they've done is being bigoted against them? That's like saying that convicting murderers is bigotry against killers. Evangelicals/conservatives passed laws to justify their hate. They have to live with the mistakes of their recent history.

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Holding them accountable for what they've done is being bigoted against them? That's like saying that convicting murderers is bigotry against killers. Evangelicals/conservatives passed laws to justify their hate. They have to live with the mistakes of their recent history.

Are we talking about the democrats in the 50's?

[Magicpot]

TBH If I found out that someone was an evangelical, I would not only not hire them, that alone would be enough to make me not even want to call them in for an interview. Why? Because being an evangelical means one of two things:

1. You're not smart
2. You were indoctrinated and didn't manage to break free from it yet, in which case I cannot trust your judgement.

I get tired easily of people claiming thats bigotry (mostly americans claiming that). No, believing in a thoroughly stupid idea makes you seem thoroughly stupid. I wouldn't entertain the application of a flat earther either, and thats not far off.

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Holding them accountable for what they've done is being bigoted against them? That's like saying that convicting murderers is bigotry against killers. Evangelicals/conservatives passed laws to justify their hate. They have to live with the mistakes of their recent history.

The key point here is that you're not dealing with the criminals in your analogy. It should be more like this: "That's like saying that convicting murderers,their family, and anyone who shares some ideology with them is bigotry."

[s_bushido]

There may be a lot of stupid shit going on at college campuses these days, but I find it pretty rich that conservatives are suddenly so very interested in education. Does that mean they finally want to give it some proper funding, stop trying to push their pseudo-scientific garbage, and maybe let people have the opportunity to attend without going into massive debt? Or do they just care because their "we're so persecuted" schtick hasn't been working as well for them as it has been for the idiots on the left?

[Spectral]

That's not bigoted I just do not care.

"Oh boo hoo we're do discriminated again, by the way I don't want to serve no gay people in my store."

It seems like you're caught in the trap of treating all people as though they're responsible for the sins of people that share their religion. Do you figure that a lot of Evangelical professorial candidates have engaged in a lot of refusing to serve gay people in stores? I'd bet against it. Let's treat people as individuals instead of declaring that they deserve to be discriminated against because others that share a superficial characteristic with them did something bad.

[alexw]

This all hinges on the notion that Evangelicals are all radical Christian supremacists. That just ain't so.

I agree not all are. But evangelicals generally lie on the extremist end of Christianity so if your time is precious and you have multiple potential candidates to interview, are you going to spend some of it on someone who has a very good chance of being ideologically extreme? Just like they will weed out Islamists (not all of whom will be Islam supremacists) they will do the same with Christians and weed out Evangelicals (not all of whom will be Christian supremacists).

It's not anti-christian but anti-extremist because teaching the young is too important and sensitive a task to let extremists gain sway in. Countries that have let their guards down and let those extremists have a foothold in education have ended up with all sorts of problems. Look at what has happened to Pakistan and other nations that have let Saudi Arabia establish extremist Madrassas on their territories.

[Felya]

Yet if you criticize Islam as a series of ideas you will be judged the king kamehameha bigot.

A trick to avoid being called a bigot:

Criticize a serious of ideas that can derive from Islam. It will not only avoid you getting called a bigot, but also avoid the 'Christians do it too' reply as well.

[Spiffums]

The intolerance from the tolerant is always funny.

[Akani]

I always comment on internet forums about things I do not care about.

Immature. "If you don't care so much why are you still talking?" Seriously?

You can't dispute that the right's victim complex leads them to believe that limiting other people's rights are their right so you resort to playground comebacks. You critique our refusal to hand-hold the right and pretend their persecution complex is real as being bigoted against the right, but when someone points out that that makes no sense you focus on the way they said it because you have no solid argument.