What happened to Class Accessories?

[FelPlague]

Lol, get off your high horse.

I didn't come to the thread complaining.
I don't have the expectation of seeing it in WoD, Legion nor the expansion after.
I was just wondering what happened to it.
There are plenty of reasons Blizzard could give that'd make me go "oh, that makes sense", but some I'd call bullshit.
I guess if they ever go about the idea again it will be if they find a purpose beyond pure cosmetics for it, but that's probably not gonna happen soon.

Just saddens me that Ret/Prot, for example, get the shaft on Librams hanging from their waist.

again we allready know what happened to it, that they were removed in favour of artifacts...
they made a video of a interveiw after legions announcement about how the artifacts are replacing these acsessories
also no Ret and Prot have never really used librams like the holy, can you find me some art of a prot/ret paladin in the lore with a libram? (or book lore)

[Deathquoi]

Some players will always whine, but the issue is that Blizzard used to stay quiet and only share sure-stuff, then started sharing unsure-stuff, and then justifying it, and then started becoming afraid to share again...

If Blizzard just kept communicating ideas or concepts they're working on, they'd make players get used to it.

I'm not sure how you can deny that no matter what Blizzard does, someone will be very vocal about hating it. If 11 years of this game hasn't taught you that, I guess you aren't ever going to learn it.

[Nurvus]

again we allready know what happened to it, that they were removed in favour of artifacts...
they made a video of a interveiw after legions announcement about how the artifacts are replacing these acsessories
also no Ret and Prot have never really used librams like the holy, can you find me some art of a prot/ret paladin in the lore with a libram? (or book lore)

Check the Draenei (Maraad?) in the Burning Crusade cinematic.
Check Paladins in Warcraft 3, such as Arthas and Uther Lightbringer.

There's nothing wrong with Holy being the only spec to get a Libram Artifact.

But that doesn't change the fact that the concept of Librams in connected to the whole Paladin class.

[FelPlague]

I'm not sure how you can deny that no matter what Blizzard does, someone will be very vocal about hating it. If 11 years of this game hasn't taught you that, I guess you aren't ever going to learn it.

have you seen the forums of people hating on the new wardrobe cause they dont unlock every single item from every quest they ever do? wether they can equip it or not

[Nurvus]

have you seen the forums of people hating on the new wardrobe cause they dont unlock every single item from every quest they ever do? wether they can equip it or not

There will always be whining.
But I'm talking about the kind of whining that becomes "heavy" enough that Blizzard feels like "addressing".
I think if Blizzard more often shared ideas they're working on, and ideas they worked on but ditched, etc, there would be less "heavy whining".

The normal whining will never stop.

[ComputerNerd]

first off it was a concept, and 2 of them here, libram is baked into holy, and quiver is baked into MM hunter, and that bag, we now have belts with alot more stuff on them, like blades, bunch of small bags, actual buckles, so that isnt needed anymore

Indeed.
It was described as a concept.

I really don't accept the excuse of "baking" them into Artifacts.
Postponing them due to Artifacts, sure.

The Libram used by Holy is held in the off-hand.
It has little to do with the Libram all Paladins specs deserve, which is meant to hang from the waist, bound to a chain.

Justifications I accept are:
- Blizzard hasn't figured out a proper accessory for each class that feels meaningful for all specs
- Blizzard has realized that with the focus on "spec identity" in Legion, certain classes will need more than 1 accessory
(Quiver for Survival Hunter doesn't make sense anymore).
- Blizzard is trying to give accessories a meaningful beyond mere cosmetics.

It is possible the artifact implementations are an experiment, a smaller less resource intensive version.
The wardrobe offers a lot of potential options there, so it makes sense that some major parts of the framework get a trialling first before overhauling all of it at once.

There will always be whining.
But I'm talking about the kind of whining that becomes "heavy" enough that Blizzard feels like "addressing".
I think if Blizzard more often shared ideas they're working on, and ideas they worked on but ditched, etc, there would be less "heavy whining".

The normal whining will never stop.

There would be more whining, not less.
Players have repeatedly proven that anything shared by blizzard will be taken as a "promise", regardless of how it was presented or described.
With any changes no matter the reason behind them being cited as promises being broken.

[FelPlague]

Indeed.
It was described as a concept.



It is possible the artifact implementations are an experiment, a smaller less resource intensive version.
The wardrobe offers a lot of potential options there, so it makes sense that some major parts of the framework get a trialling first before overhauling all of it at once.



There would be more whining, not less.
Players have repeatedly proven that anything shared by blizzard will be taken as a "promise", regardless of how it was presented or described.
With any changes no matter the reason behind them being cited as promises being broken.

yeah, and 2/3 of the examples they use are part of the artifacts

i dont think its less resource... its probably more... but eh, depends how in depth they would go with the accessories

exactly... like faralohn, where at blizzcon they said LITTERALLY SHIT ALL about it, and just said "we might make farahlon and ogre empire" did not show any screenshots, not even WIP NOT EVEN CONCEPT ART and yet people said blizz promised...

[Nurvus]

There would be more whining, not less.
Players have repeatedly proven that anything shared by blizzard will be taken as a "promise", regardless of how it was presented or described.
With any changes no matter the reason behind them being cited as promises being broken.

That's a case where "bruteforcing" actually solves the issue.
That escalating whining happens because Blizzard has done announcements only at certain occasions.
If Blizzard shared stuff ALL the time, the whole "broken promise" whining would just stop being taken seriously.

[ComputerNerd]

That's a case where "bruteforcing" actually solves the issue.
That escalating whining happens because Blizzard has done announcements only at certain occasions.
If Blizzard shared stuff ALL the time, the whole "broken promise" whining would just stop being taken seriously.

That whining is exactly why blizzard do not share stuff more.
To borrow a relevant quote, "This is why we can't have nice things".
When someone is accused of lying repeatedly then they will be less willing to communicate.

[Musta]

Some got baked into artifacts, i think the real deal will come in the next expac now that we have 3d armors

[tangers58]

Standard blizz MO, announce features then have them mysteriously vanish

[FelPlague]

Standard blizz MO, announce features then have them mysteriously vanish

they dident announce it, they said it was a possability, and it even is in the game... so fuck off

[Socialhealer]

pretty obvious this is basically been turned into artifact weapons.

it was an idea, and ideas change.

Those we're concept drawings nothing more.

[Thoughtful Trolli]

I want a backpack or a jet pack, not a dumb cloak! C'mon!

[judgementofantonidas]

What happened to them?

if they give paladins the libram spot back ill worry about it.

[alturic]

Man, seeing the quiver and ammo boxes brought back memories.

[Deathquoi]

There will always be whining.
But I'm talking about the kind of whining that becomes "heavy" enough that Blizzard feels like "addressing".
I think if Blizzard more often shared ideas they're working on, and ideas they worked on but ditched, etc, there would be less "heavy whining".

The normal whining will never stop.

No, case in point, here you are bitching about an idea that was shared as a concept.

[Nurvus]

No, case in point, here you are bitching about an idea that was shared as a concept.

Asking what happened is bitching?
I hope you get better soon :S

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if they give paladins the libram spot back ill worry about it.

By spot you mean the "relic" slot?
Accessories apparently were going to have an "on use" effect, froim the concept art, but with the Legendaries, Necklaces and Artifacts we get in Legion, I guess that idea is probably shut down.
If anything I'd like the cosmetic aspect of those accessories, to reinforce flavor on classes.
Maybe one day I'll be able to have a Libram at my waist as a Retribution or Protection paladin.
Legion will not be that "day", though

[Deathquoi]

Asking what happened is bitching?
I hope you get better soon :S

No, saying "I don't accept it being part of artifacts" is bitching. Not sure what I need to get better from.

[Nurvus]

No, saying "I don't accept it being part of artifacts" is bitching. Not sure what I need to get better from.

It's not bitching, it's an opinion. Do you even context? :P
It's simply not an acceptable explanation for me -> I don't swallow bullshit.
Postponing it due to artifacts taking "most" of the roles accessories were going to have, is perfectly fine.
Using Artifacts as an excuse for permanently denying Ret & Prot of cosmetic waist Librams, is not.
Thought process shared -> opinion -> not bitching.