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    Quote Originally Posted by therealbowser View Post
    I was going to agree with your comment that the Zoo should have made it harder to get into the enclosure, but after this comment I lost interest. When you decide to grow up and learn how to hold a conversation without petty insults and snide remarks, let me know, and maybe we can have a mature discussion about potentially interesting topics.
    So your wrong and this is your concession?
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    Quote Originally Posted by enak101 View Post
    Gorilla life > human life isn't a good viewpoint to have. It sucks that they are an endangered species but its just not fair to risk the humans life, not fair to the human, which is what we care about.

    I'd like to see all these "any animal life is more valuable than a human life" not defend themselves when its them or a family member getting mauled by some animal.
    I wouldn't be stupid enough to be somewhere that dangerous without knowing I'm taking a risk. Not going to take the family into tiger area and not think something would happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnier Fructis View Post
    Oh, I know what happens. And it's a damn shame. It happens because most everyone is of the opinion that human > animal all the time.
    Whereas I'm of the opinion that people pay for their egregious stupidity.
    Quote Originally Posted by Manabomb View Post
    If people paid for their stupidity, we wouldn't be 7 billion strong.
    And that is the main thing that has been bothering me for some time.
    Humans as a society have gone beyond natural selection and its basically going to trow everything out of wack eventually if it isn't already.

    In the old days age of the sticks and caves the kid would have ended up dead with parents like that. Parents might have gotten a second child and actually doing their job properly or they would have made the same mistakes and eventually the the family line would have died out and only leaving the people that where properly equipped and knew what they heck they where doing alive. Nowadays however we completely overprotect the idiots, they keep living multiplying and humanity just keeps letting dumber and dumber every year goes by. Not to mention the desperate need to squash natural diseases that are basically the last balancing factor in our existence.
    its sad really, because its never going to be balanced anymore unless some really big natural disaster or cosmic disaster happens that would strip us back to the bare bone minimum.

    About the people that go yea endangered species are already obsolete. The reason they are endangered is most of the time by human hands, stealing their habitat, killing them for stupid reasons like trophies or worse their killing them for reasons like animal parts = viagra or animal parts = bring luck etc.

    Its a pity the gorilla needed to be killed and I am sure the zoo did have to make this decision no matter how hard it was.

    It just irritates me how a people (human beings) in general are acting nowadays, sitting on their pedestals acting high an mightily disregarding basically everything around them. A little modesty and respect for the "globe" and all the living things on it goes a long way you know.

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    Don't kniw what worse here. That she let her kid in or that she thinks god saved him.

    The only thing that should of been shot dead is the dumb bitch that is a shit house parent.

    Not only is this kid not been cared for properly, it is no doubt also been indoctrinated by the dumb morornic parents into Christianity.
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    lol the mom said God protected my child, no the gorilla tried to protect him but got gunned down because of human stupidity.

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    Animals tend to be very calm around children and elderly people. The gorilla does not seem to showcase any kind of violent/territorial behaviour.

    I believe that both bad parenting and poor security measures in the zoo are to blame for this. The animal did not deserve this.

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    The craziest thing about all this is just how many people on the internet are apparently experts on gorilla behavioral psychology and tranquilizers. Is this a mandatory school subject in some countries or something? :S

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    The craziest thing about all this is just how many people on the internet are apparently experts on gorilla behavioral psychology and tranquilizers. Is this a mandatory school subject in some countries or something? :S
    Theres been experts saying he was not going to attack, first thing they do is charge and beat their chest when attacking, and that it's not a agressive species and that he understood that the child was helpless. All the boy got was some bruises from falling into the place nothing else, that gorilla would have killed him in 1sec if he wanted to but didnt during a full 10min.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    The craziest thing about all this is just how many people on the internet are apparently experts on gorilla behavioral psychology and tranquilizers. Is this a mandatory school subject in some countries or something? :S
    You must be new to the internets if you find crazy that people there are experts on everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haekke View Post
    Dogs are overrated. They like everything and everyone that feeds them and doesn't hit them. Sure, a lonely person might feel better when a dog likes them but in reality that 'love' is worth nothing. It's like having an npc friend in a video game.
    I'm sorry, but you saying this just shows that you've either never had a dog or a healthy relationship with one.

    They are incredibly loyal and form very deep bonds if given the opportunity.

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    Here is a different video of another boy falling into a gorilla pit, the gorilla protects the boy and there was no need to shoot him as they entered the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    I'm not too sure what you've been reading, but I've only read about experts defending the shooting. They all agree that the gorilla, while not attacking the boy, was agitated and violently dragging and throwing the child. They believed that this was a life threatening situation, given the sheer strength of the animal.

    Also, the boy got more than bruises. He suffered a concussion.

    Experts opinion: https://gma.yahoo.com/gorilla-shot-c...opstories.html
    A Gorilla can crush a coconut with his hand yet there was no broken bones all he got was injuries from falling down, i dont think he would have done anything, well maby because of all the screaming people but there has been no kids dying to falling down with gorillas before.

    I can see why they took the shoot but as in the other video i posted they could have tried going in there, there where more options.

    And this is one expert who says he was not agressive http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-hurt-boy.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    Also, we don't know if the boy received the concussion from falling or when the gorilla was violently dragging and throwing the boy.
    Think the boy would be dead if it was violently, as i said it can crush a coconut with his hands so i would asssume the boys legs would break like a toothpick if the gorilla would put some wieght into it. Was looking like when they drag their own little gorillas around only this kid is more fragile yet did not recieve any injuries from him but to the fall.

    But as i said i can understand why they took the shoot but there was other options they could have tried, it was for 10 minutes after all, that's all im saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParanoiD84 View Post
    lol the mom said God protected my child, no the gorilla tried to protect him but got gunned down because of human stupidity.
    Even if the gorilla was trying to protect the boy, the gorilla was still dangerous... as evidenced by him dragging the boy all over the place in the video. Could have easily torn the boy's limb out of its socket doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    Could have easily torn the boy's limb out of its socket doing that.
    They are strong as fuck, so yeah i can agree to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aori View Post
    How are people still falling into these freaking exhibits?
    Because they won't install safety nets to catch falling children. If they had one then they wouldn't have a dead gorilla, bad press and a potential lawsuit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammerfest View Post
    Could have easily torn the boy's limb out of its socket doing that.
    Yet it did not, the sheer force of it's hand could probably crush the kids leg, and still, it did not. I'm not saying the animal wouldn't have hurt the kid, but it just makes you think that it was definitely aware that it was a defenceless kid and was being careful by gorilla standards.

    I don't know man, it just feels that the entire thing is wrong. I don't know what the security requirements are, but if a 3 year old kid can jump into the enclosed area, they are clearly not strict enough.I was at the largest zoo (it's more like a mini-reserve) in Spain a few weeks ago, and you could literally take a small jump into an area with more than 20 grizzlies roaming around, and that's fucked up, they can tear you to shreds in a matter of seconds.
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    i'm not a gorillaologist so i can't say for sure what the gorillas intentions were, so i have to trust that the Zookeeper who is a trained professional gorillaologist did what was necessary. it's awful, it's tragic and i'm sorry the gorilla was shot, the day after his birthday too

    i could blame the mother, for not keeping an eye on her kid and allowing it to get into the gorilla enclosure.

    but really, we should be blaming however built the gorilla enclosure and the surrounding fences that could be penetrated by a small child.

    so whilst a part of me wants to blame the mother for letting her child get out of sight and clamber into the gorilla enclosure, another part of me wants to blame the Zoo for having a Gorilla enclosure so badly protected that a small child could get in there and put itself and the animal at risk.

    imagine if the Zookeeper had missed and shot the child instead though...

    also, the mother is thanking god for protecting her child. that irks me. as that's what she should've been doing in the first place and none of this would've happened. i know it's damn near impossible to keep tabs on your child every moment, but if your kid is actively demonstrating a desire to enter the pen, which looks plausible, because it could slip through the bars or over the wall or whatever, then you have to take some responsibility for not heeding that warning, which ultimately cost the world the life of an endangered species but could've also seen your kid ripped apart by a gorilla.
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    rofl at people saying the gorilla was protecting the child
    did you even watch the video of the kid being dragged around like crazy
    even if its considered defensive behaviour for a gorilla it wouldn't have been too fun for the kid

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