Hillary Clinton Declared Presumptive Dem Nominee

[MoFalcon]

Hillary losing to trump....Bernie beating trump....who do you think they will back at the convention?

the dems dont want to lose, "F" who is wining between Hillary and Bernie .

Dont count your chickens too soon hillary!!

[alexw]

He's said he'll do everything in his power to make sure trump isn't elected. He's also said (paraphrasing) if she wants to win my support and that of my supporters, she'll have to do x, y, and z. So yes, he is willing to endorse her.

That's the smart way to do it. He can either take his ball home and hand the presidency to Trump, at which point the country takes two giant steps backward from his point of view. Or he can use the power he holds to wring concessions from Hillary and get some of what he wants enacted, so not so much two steps forward but maybe half or three quarters of one.

[Uoyredrum]

Like this:



The thing most important to me this election cycle is anyone but Trump getting the presidency. I would prefer if it was Bernie. But the whole Bernie or Bust theme has really rubbed me the wrong way. I'd rather they not protest vote in an election where 1 (maybe 2) supreme court nomination(s) are in the balance.

Don't 'no true scotsman' me.

To be honest your posts seem a lot more like a temper tantrum to me, but whatever. If people protest voting makes you want to protest vote against them, so be it. I'd tell you to grow thicker skin but I don't think it matters much at this point. It's your vote.

[akris15]

Kasich? The guy who destroyed Ohio and was still behind rubio in delegates weeks after rubio dropped out? Hell, he's still behind Rubio. Kasich is a joke. The only reason people saw him as legit was because he put on a "nice guy kasich" face to try and win the nomination. He was a terrible candidate from the beginning.

Electability right now means who has the most experience and who is most likely to win. Bernie wins both categories.

I agree it's over (unless a miracle indictment happens), but that's no reason we can't discuss it.

So why does Bernie get the pass? Just like Kasich he didn't win his nomination. So why should the super delegates vote for Bernie over Clinton but the same argument can't be used for Kasich over Trump?

[Garnier Fructis]

I love the fact that both parties are just two sides of one coin but I just don't understand the mindset people like you have to want to vote for the worst person alive. What kind of life do you live? who were you raised by? wolves?

The 'two sides of the same coin' argument is lazy, pompous, and totally mysterious to anyone that's been paying attention to the parties over the years.

'Two sides of the same coin' doesn't explain why the parties have huge divides on abortion, LGBT rights, energy policy, minimum wage, etc. It's like the observation that both sides have a lot of corporate hacks somehow negates the plethora of differences they have.

Oh, and Hillary being the worst person alive is an opinion. Trump is, imo, far worse.

[akris15]

Hillary losing to trump....Bernie beating trump....who do you think they will back at the convention?

the dems dont want to lose, "F" who is wining between Hillary and Bernie .

Dont count your chickens too soon hillary!!

Comrade Bernie Ignores Will of the People - Republicans in the general

[alexw]

I mean you are putting it as Obama is doing it on purpose.

Let's dispel once and for all with the ficiton that Barack Obama doesn't know what he is doing, he knows exactly what he is doing.

[Wulfey]

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The thing most important to me this election cycle is anyone but Trump getting the presidency. I would prefer if it was Bernie. But the whole Bernie or Bust theme has really rubbed me the wrong way. I'd rather they not protest vote in an election where 1 (maybe 2) supreme court nomination(s) are in the balance.

Don't 'no true scotsman' me.

I would vote for a rag on a stick if it promised to protect mainstream Democratic party policy. I knew I would vote D in 2016 back in 2004. #BernieOrBust is just ignorance of the issues actually facing this country. Trump means more maniacs on the bench, the end of ACA, the end of progressive taxation, and likely the end of all labor protections if the Rs hold the legislature. I vote for policies, and rationalize the candidates to get them afterwards.

[cuafpr]

maybe bernie will run as 3rd party...

[akris15]

maybe bernie will run as 3rd party...

Deadline has passed in many states because of sore loser laws...

[Vynestra]

She was 11 points ahead in the polls now she is trailing him by 2 points. Unlike sanders he will attack the shit out of her. Also remember how trump would not win the Republican nomination. and is campaign is a joke.

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Afuckingmen brother amen

K so your looking at one of the 3 recent polls showing him ahead, where as in the other 11 recent polls she is ahead, on average by 2-3 points.

Stop cherrypicking.


You're also comparing a candidate who has his nom wrapped up to one who does not, trumps bump came from consolidating support, Clinton will get that too, therefore for him to NOT be ahead by 4-5 % in the polls after winning his nom, and him being behind by 2-3% on avg, is a TERRIBLE sign for Trump.

He can't defeat a candidate in a still fractured party, that's fucking sad.

He's going to lose, just wait and see. Can't wait to make the thread Nov 8th "Hillary Clinton wins the Presidency".

Also polls this early are indicative of nothing, wait til August.

[Pangean]

oh well statistical tie than, She was 11 points ahead of him a few mo ago

Well the Reuters Poll has her up 11 as of this past Friday and them tied in their previous poll. IBD/TIPP from today has her up 5 over Trump. Now at this point the polls are frankly not worth much except to point out how people view what they have said and how it came across.

[Deleted]

You should try some of the real stuff.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/

I read that on the reg. They shadowbanned me. I loathe the Berners because I know the Berners.

Funny considering you spend all your time in the Bernie Sanders megathread trashing Bernie and trying to incite his supporters...

[HillaryJtrump]

K so your looking at one of the 3 recent polls showing him ahead, where as in the other 11 recent polls she is ahead, on average by 2-3 points.

Stop cherrypicking.


You're also comparing a candidate who has his nom wrapped up to one who does not, trumps bump came from consolidating support, Clinton will get that too, therefore for him to NOT be ahead by 4-5 % in the polls after winning his nom, and him being behind by 2-3% on avg, is a TERRIBLE sign for Trump.

He can't defeat a candidate in a still fractured party, that's fucking sad.

He's going to lose, just wait and see. Can't wait to make the thread Nov 8th "Hillary Clinton wins the Presidency".

Also polls this early are indicative of nothing, wait til August.

Just like he Can't win the Republican nomination

[triplesdsu]

I love how She thinks She's just automatically winning with SUPER DELEGATES who don't even get to vote until July 25th, but HEY - GOOD JOB HILLARY - JK, hillaryforprison.com #feelthebern #idrathervoteTRUMPthanhillary

The delegates were contacted and said they were voting for her and they werent going to change their mind. Just like most of us decided ahead of time. I mailed my ballot for tomorrow last week. It still counts even though its "early"

[omfgreally]

The 'two sides of the same coin' argument is lazy, pompous, and totally mysterious to anyone that's been paying attention to the parties over the years.

It's called the left, right paradigm
Here is a wiki about learn something https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left%E...right_paradigm

And Trump being worse than Hillary

[Deleted]

Deadline has passed in many states because of sore loser laws...

Only 17 states.

He could run in the rest of the states and make Hillary lose if he wants.

[cuafpr]

Deadline has passed in many states because of sore loser laws...

doesnt mean he want try pretty much every state (i think) allows write ins

[akris15]

Only 17 states.

He could run in the rest of the states and make Hillary lose if he wants.

And his senate job is over (the repercussion would be harsh) and a liberal candidate anywhere in the United States will get minimal funding from the DNC in response.

[triplesdsu]

not so sure, but I think CA is a take all state, so even if Bernie wins 51-49 he gets all delegates.

No it isnt. None are. He would need to win 70-30 for it to matter. That wont happen.