You're picking at grammar I pulled from my role card and trying to paint it in a bad light.
So yeah, A lot has happened since my last post. i was locked out of last day time due to the early lynch so sorry I didn't get to put my opinion in although it wouldn't have affected the ultimate lynch. It would have been nice to use the time to talk more though about other candidates.
Right now the four people most on my radar are:
Arialla - Was seen killing Dupti
Val - This whole paladin, I can't lie or I become a survivor, but maybe not, seems too complicated to be true
Graeham - Feign Death? Seems like an odd ability to use to bait scum. He's an experienced player so I'd expect a good cover story for a different skill/mechanic.
Kurenai - Has admited he can appear as someone else and kill. This could explain Arialla, but there's no real reason to reveal this as a scum. There would be a better story.
There are a couple others on my radar for coasting a bit at this point under the radar. As well as a couple overly aggressive players who don't leave me with a town feeling but I'll have to pick out the posts to cite specially before I call them out for questioning.
@Razamith: I have three spells in total and a passive ability tied to one of those spells. The first allows me to ask a dead player a question that they can only answer 'yes' or 'no' to. The second is my feign death ability and the third requires me to cast it three times to have its passive effect of a single protection. It doesn't matter much now, though, since I can confirm that I have indeed been poisoned and unless I'm cured tonight I'll be dead tomorrow.
Have a ye olde vote count, though no frills because I got to leave in 5 minutes:
Kurenai (5): Anakso, Catta, Dendrek, Graeham, Xanjori
Robo (1): Arialla
Making good progress on my analysis, will be posting bit by bit this afternoon.
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reminder, 9 votes needed for majority so Kurenai is at L-4.
Mafia History
Mafia 2/2 | Town 6/9 | SK/Cult 1/2
So, Kurenai is being considered suspicious primarily because of his role, right? I thought we already played this game and realized that what roles do isn't a very good way of determining a player's alignment.
Im sorry but an ability called Filibuster? This is truly but biggest problem with his claim. Such a mundane term for a D&D ability.
Remember this quote
I feel that was partially my bad. I was out and checking up on the thread while the missus was away and I caught Large's lie. I wanted to get a vote on the record because I wasn't going to be around a lot on sunday. Didn't realise it was the hammer.
This is such complete and utter bullshit and if I had time, I'd drum up a case against you. Unfortunately I have to play catch up so you're on the back burner for now.
This is actually annoying me. Dismissing people's opinions as a deflection doesn't help anyone. How about actually responding to the opinions?
Right here. Yesterday you were convinced it was scum based. Why don't you think this anymore?
Why did you poison Graeham?
Also after lynching Listo earlier, I'd like to caution everyone on voting on him because of anti-town abilities.
I wanted to take note of this real quick.
Anyways opinions as of today:
Allowyn - Seems to be keeping to the shadows somewhat but when he/she?? is here, nice big posts
Anakso - I don't know. Ana seems to be here but only at the edges. Weird.
Arialla - A bit more active then usual. Still don't trust him after that night message
Catta - Probably the only person making sense to me right now. Strong town feeling
Celtic - The most awesomest irish person in this game
Crackleslap - I flip flop from town,scum,town on this guy. Cant decide which way.
Dendrek - Freaking hilarious. Good posts and good activity. Town feeling
Graeham - I'd like him to stay dead just to see the truth.
Kryllian - Another player in the shadows, but has a decent excuse for missing yesterday.
Kurenai - Oooooh this is a tough one. I'll expand in a bit
Razamith - Making good logic. Strong town feeling
Robozerim - Lurking so hardcore. I wanna lynch him cause of this
Senna - Around and making good posts. Town feeling
Valyrian - I'm getting a bullshit vibe from this guy and wouldn't mind seeing him lynched
Virothe - Playing it cool (which is weird)
Xanjori - Playing a smart game. Town feeling
A very risky move considering largehorn was bound to end up dead at some point with so much suspicion/a protection role.
Anyways @Arialla
Yesterday you said
But today it was "Which was lead the lynch on an enemy after disarming them" (quote in the above post)
Did you make a mistake or did I just catch you in a lie?
Seems everyone's role is convoluted.
I'm content to let Graeham live for time being.
The only thing I'm seriously iffy about is Kurenai visiting Graham on the same night no one was Nked, meaning that the NKs were either roleblocked or went to Graeham (who was immune at that time), which makes Kurenai a suspect for an attempted NK, but his claim appears to be as plausible as Graham's and mine's.
I'm down for turning over new rocks though, and Robo ofcourse...
Vote Robo
So, I'm going to break up my analysis and post in 3's, so here's the first batch, but more is coming. It's really hard because I went kinda in depth (maybe too in depth?) and was trying to entertain the possibility of either just 1 scum team or multiple. I'm also assuming Large and Jynx are aligned together because they are color-coded the same.
Allowyn
Day 1: 18 posts, Votes: Rixis, Listo
Day 2: 3 posts, Votes: N/A
Day 3: 3 posts, Votes: Allowyn, Blood Fox
Day 4: 4 posts, Votes: Arialla
Day 5: 0 posts, Votes: N/A
Thoughts:
I think a couple of posts that Allowyn had Day 2 are weird, one of which she calls all people who are “blaming” the Kurenai defenders scum, and the other was the post after day 2 was over, in which she was upset that she missed an opportunity to vote. It felt like it was for town points, and it’s all the more suspicious when actual scum was lynched that day. Content has been pretty lacking since Day 2, she advocated a Blood Fox lynch over Large, thinks Graeham is in a third party faction, but otherwise I didn’t pick up much. By the way, the whole “I’ve been drunk and raiding that’s why I’m not here” line? She used it last time and was scummy mcscum.
Verdict: I’m definitely leaning scum for Allowyn, and if there are scum teams I think she is a good candidate to be on Large and Jynx’s team.
Anakso
Day 1: 6 posts, Votes: Kurenai
Day 2: 7 posts, Votes: Kurenai, Uggor
Day 3: 2 posts, Votes: Largehorn, Blood Fox
Day 4: 4 posts, Votes: Largehorn
Day 5: 2 posts, Votes: Largehorn
Thoughts:
The biggest standout for Anakso is the Largehorn votes. Anakso was an early Large voter both days 3 and 5, and on Day 4 voted Large so that he was the lead train. Large also voted on Anakso both Day 1 and 2. Anakso has leaned toward the “Ari is framed stance”, has voiced distrust of Graeham, and has found Kurenai suspicious throughout the game and has voiced that several times as well. Currently has a vote on Kurenai.
Verdict: I have a soft town lean for Anakso, which would change to a hard town lean if Kurenai ends up flipping scum and/or if there is confirmation of only one scum team. If Anakso is scum, is most definitely not aligned with Large and Jynx
Arialla
Day 1: 10 posts, Votes: Kurenai
Day 2: 5 posts, Votes: N/A
Day 3: 1 post, Votes: N/A
Day 4: 15 posts, Votes: Largehorn
Day 5: 6 posts, Votes: Largehorn
Thoughts:
Arialla’s claim: Battlemaster, unable to be disarmed or roleblocked with melee abilities, a 2 shot role block of melee abilities, and Leadership ability which is getting a double vote the next day if you are the first person to vote on the lynched person who also happens to be an enemy. Not clear if said enemy of Arialla’s has to be scum. Arialla has claimed that Large is an enemy of hers, was the first to vote on Large and therefore has the double vote. No mod confirm on this as of this posting.
The main arguments of Ari being scummy are the defense of Jynx Day 2 and being seen with the killing blow on Dupti. Counter argument to defense of Jynx: First I’m assuming Large and Jynx are on the same team because they have the same color coding. Ari has claimed that Large is an enemy of hers, so if Ari was on different scum team, then Jynx would be an enemy too, and therefore Ari would not want to defend. Counter argument to Dupti killing blow: The RP suggests that other blows to Dupti had happened/that it was overkill/someone else may have been involved in killing Dupti. Ari does not have a killing ability in his claim.
Other things: Ari night actions: N1 disarmed Dendrek (Dendrek confirmed true), N2 nothing, N3 nothing, N4 disarmed Largehorn (I confirm that Largehorn was indeed disarmed), N5 nothing
He has defended Listo on Day 1, has voiced opinions that Graeham is 3rd party on Day 4, and thinks Robo is fishy. He has now followed up with a vote today currently on Robo.
Verdict: I’m leaning town for Arialla. If Arialla’s double vote can be mod-confirmed and if we can confirm that there’s only one scum faction, then Arialla is conf-town. It’s hard to look past the mortal blow, but there are a lot of funky roles out there, and one claim (Kurenai’s) has already offered a possible reason. There might be others.
Last edited by Senna1251; 2016-06-07 at 09:07 PM. Reason: trying to make it more read-able
Mafia History
Mafia 2/2 | Town 6/9 | SK/Cult 1/2
I'm thoroughly impressed. Bumping to spread the posts out.
One thing you might try (in the future, too late now, I suppose) to condense your posts is to use [ collapse ] tags. For example:
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On occasions where I had massive info dumps, I used these regularly. You saw one of mine on D1.
@Celtic209 Rather than quote your whole post and spend 15 minutes trimming it down to the content relevant to me...
Simply put, I took Uggor's flip and his suspicion of Graeham and my own suspicion of him and acted upon that. I had considered Xanjori and Arialla as potential targets but afrter Large's flip I reversed my viewpoints on them; Graeham was still a question mark in my mind.
As I've said--I expect to be lynched today.
Like a cucumber man, Like a cucumber!
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Is there anything you want to know in specific? If I still have a protection clearly the person I protected is alive and not at the center of any controversy so I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for from me. :/
Oh that was a bonus wincon. Fair enough.
Fair enough. Cheers for the response
I want everything for you But on a more serious note I was just tossing out opinions because I'm very busy and I don't wanna be skirting by in the shadows. Im neutral with regards to you right now but I believe your claim (because people keep not dying)
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And I now see you were responded to arialla - Just ignore me!
Thank you for the bumps and tips, I didn't know how to do that. I just hope that someone reads these because I slaved away at it for quite some time. That said, here's the next batch!
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I'm hoping that I can get all of this done before I go to bed, but it looks like I will be unavailable for part of the evening.
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Part 3, and now I'm going to go eat.
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Need break, much tired.
Mafia History
Mafia 2/2 | Town 6/9 | SK/Cult 1/2
I'll clarify my claim:
I have the ability to Inspire. My inspiration does not have a limited number of charges (it's my role passive). I have to create an inspiring RP post towards another player and then state in my QT that I would like to inspire that player. I have to make that choice before the day ends. Ret won't tell me exactly what the effect of the inspiration is. It only says that the player will excel at any abilities they use that night. I also don't know if they are informed they are inspired. I cannot inspire myself.
D1 - Dupti > Monkz (Dupti was my first choice, but I switched to Monkz during the Listo controversy)
D2 - I didn't RP inspire anyone. I was kind of annoyed that day and didn't take time to put thought into who to inspire.
D3 - Monkz (at this point I had a pretty strong town read on Monkz)
D4 - Monkz (I wrote a poem for both Monkz and Xanjori, to give myself an option, but I chose to stick with Monkz again)
D5 - No one. The day ended early and I didn't get a chance to inspire anyone.
I had the ability to Disarm. It was a one-shot ability. I stupidly used it on Arialla, forgetting he couldn't be disarmed. As I mentioned before, I knew that Arialla had disarmed me. This is because I was informed I'd been disarmed in my QT. I was also told I would not be able to use my own disarm the following night. I didn't attempt to use any actions N1 so I don't know if the disarm would have blocked my actions.
I have another ability but there's no good reason to disclose what it is.