blizzard force PVErs into PVP, AGAIN

[slime]

I've been playing WoW since Vanilla and never once have I found myself "forced into PvP" as a PvE player.

Didn't get a legendary cloak huh.

[emilylorange]

I've been playing WoW since Vanilla and never once have I found myself "forced into PvP" as a PvE player.

I sort of have but that was in BC when resilience helped tanks toward defense cap, and I guess in LK there was one boss it was good to have a pvp trinket.

Nothing since then tho.

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Didn't get a legendary cloak huh.

Oh yeahhhhhh

*ponder*

I think I had that done in an afternoon and blocked it from my memory lol

[slime]

Must be trying your best to learn from them, never give up, keep your collection going you chromosomally challenged basement dweller.

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[emilylorange]

Must be trying your best to learn from them, never give up, keep your collection going you chromosomally challenged basement dweller.

You seem upset about something.

[Pull My Finger]

Didn't get a legendary cloak huh.

You know, you're only the 120th clown in this thread who thought he was incredibly witty to point that out.

The cloak thing required you to afk in 2 (!!) BGs. That has absolutely nothing to do with "doing PvP". It's like being sent by a quest to a raid entrance to talk to an NPC and then claiming you were forced to raid. You folks are full of crap.

[OrcsRLame]

Man, once people realize that you can get gear from world quests that's better than both gear from mythic Gul'dan and better than the top end pvp gear, oh boy, the salt is gonna flow!

Newsflash for people that don't get it yet: In Legion, you can become almost infinitely powerful simply by putting time into the game. Being versatile though, doing more types of content, that will increase your rate of power progression.

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oh yeah between some pokemon games I always wanna kill some people

[Infernix]

I've been playing WoW since Vanilla and never once have I found myself "forced into PvP" as a PvE player.

MoP's legendary Cloak quest line required PVP.

Don't know if anyone's pointed that out yet.

[jackofwind]

MoP's legendary Cloak quest line required PVP.

Don't know if anyone's pointed that out yet.

FFS people read the thread before you respond, don't just pop in for one post after reading the title.

[Infernix]

FFS people read the thread before you respond, don't just pop in for one post after reading the title.

Oops, did someone already mention the MoP Legendary Cloak quest PVP requirements?

[SirCowdog]

I didn't read the entire thread, but I read enough to understand that it all boils down to people being mad that someone isn't playing the same way they are. How DARE they put options in the game to allow people to gear up and progress differently than what I'M willing to do!!!! Don't you know that in order to maintain my spot as 3rd best DPS in my casual raiding guild, I'm FORCED to pvp in order to keep up!?!? This is OUTRAGEOUS!!!!

[skannerz22]

Blizzard struggle 24/7 with PVE items in PVP but it's obvious that WOW is PVE game and PVP is just small activity like pet battles etc which means nothing. And it's ok when PVE items is involved in PVP. This attracts more players to this activity. But it's absolutly another story with PVP items in PVE. It's not ok when activity like PVP or pet battles give advantage in PVE. According to bluepost you can faceroll 2-3 heroicraid-quality items every week in PVP and even mythic-quality if you take this activity seriously...

i hope you get forced into sexual relations with a panda bear
pvpers are sick of being forced into pve just to get legendaries

[OrcsRLame]

i hope you get forced into sexual relations with a panda bear
pvpers are sick of being forced into pve just to get legendaries

Legendaries won't be usable in pvp and item level gives 90% less stats in pvp in Legion. The only significant power gap is going to come from honor levels, which give both talents that you spec into and passive abilities.

[Rarespawn2012]

Blizzard struggle 24/7 with PVE items in PVP but it's obvious that WOW is PVE game and PVP is just small activity like pet battles etc which means nothing. And it's ok when PVE items is involved in PVP. This attracts more players to this activity. But it's absolutly another story with PVP items in PVE. It's not ok when activity like PVP or pet battles give advantage in PVE. According to bluepost you can faceroll 2-3 heroicraid-quality items every week in PVP and even mythic-quality if you take this activity seriously...

I don't see anything in the new expansion that indicates pvp is mandatory?! Have you missed the entire pvp change in Legion? They no logner have pvp gear, instead they get pvp specific talents.

[Taeldorian]

Really? MoP Legendary cloack quest line wasn't "forced into PVP"?

We don't talk about that here. The more we talk about it the more Blizzard might see it and decide to do it again. /s To be honest though all you had to do was afk in the BGs, it wasn't a huge deal.

Still though, if you take PvP seriously you'll get gear from it equal to mythic pve gear. They say gladiator will award you with that gear but they'll probably lower it to like 2.6k rating. Nobody is forced into anything here.

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Man, once people realize that you can get gear from world quests that's better than both gear from mythic Gul'dan and better than the top end pvp gear, oh boy, the salt is gonna flow!

Newsflash for people that don't get it yet: In Legion, you can become almost infinitely powerful simply by putting time into the game. Being versatile though, doing more types of content, that will increase your rate of power progression.

Pfft people already see what the titanforged gear is like. Nobody likes RNG but they added more because world of diablocraft is actually becoming a thing. On a more serious note, I'd be more worried about titanforged gear than I would from world quest gear.

[OrcsRLame]

We don't talk about that here. The more we talk about it the more Blizzard might see it and decide to do it again. /s To be honest though all you had to do was afk in the BGs, it wasn't a huge deal.

Still though, if you take PvP seriously you'll get gear from it equal to mythic pve gear. They say gladiator will award you with that gear but they'll probably lower it to like 2.6k rating. Nobody is forced into anything here.

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Pfft people already see what the titanforged gear is like. Nobody likes RNG but they added more because world of diablocraft is actually becoming a thing. On a more serious note, I'd be more worried about titanforged gear than I would from world quest gear.

That's the beauty of it though, world quest gear can be Titanforged! They will quite literally scale off each other, creating a system where the rich get richer.

[Taeldorian]

That's the beauty of it though, world quest gear can be Titanforged! They will quite literally scale off each other, creating a system where the rich get richer.

Well shit.

[Pull My Finger]

MoP's legendary Cloak quest line required PVP.

Don't know if anyone's pointed that out yet.

Nope, no one did.

[chooi]

If you as a serious, competitive Mythic progression raider have the time for high-end rated PvP next to:

- lots of hours for progression raid (+ multiple split runs)
- pushing Mythic+ dungeons for highest levels (= loot)
- World Quest farming
- general raid preparation
- gearing up multiple chars

Then, yeah, you are 'forced' to do PvP in Legion.

/sarcasm

Or maybe you just need the PvP gear to outgear PvE content (asuming that you are gud enough to actually get the Glad gear...)

[Osmeric]

We don't talk about that here. The more we talk about it the more Blizzard might see it and decide to do it again. /s To be honest though all you had to do was afk in the BGs, it wasn't a huge deal.

It was a bigger deal for alliance than for horde, since the alliance win % (particularly in SSM) was bad.