Mass Shooting at Florida Gay Bar

[Azadina]

Maybe the usual suspects had an attack of common sense and realized that people would not buy them professing their love of gays...

Sounds about right really :/ Not that they are fooling anyone with trying to avoid saying something about them.

[Cricket22]

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If only all these people had guns to defend themselves.

Exactly! And that's why I carry a gun!

No excuse not to carry, especially in Florida, which has "stand your ground" laws.

[Cthulhu 2020]

oh.. so you were serious with that statement. Guess my first feeling about you was correct then

Keep telling yourself that.

[Chrysia]

Yup, the Police Chief just confirmed that the earlier estimates of 20 dead were low. How those estimates were that low is a little puzzling. Worst mass shooting in US history, mainly because of the venue. Armed security immediately on scene and there wasn't much of jack-shit they could do.

[Radaney]

Oh look where he's from, how surprising.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7077936.html

"Ron Hopper, the FBI agent in charge of the operation, when asked if the gunman had a connection to radical Islamic terrorism, Hopper said authorities "have suggestions that individual has leanings towards that"."

Oh wow, so surprising. Never would have guessed.

So wow. Real surprise.

[Slant]

If they did, actually, 50 probably wouldn't have been killed. Just saying.

But OT: This is some sad shit, rip to those that were straight up murdered. Religion of peace my ass.

Don't let prejudice or hate get the better of you, it's never okay to lose your own humanity over the bad deeds of others.

[GennGreymane]

Florida man is no longer a hero.

[Underverse]

Hum, in all seriousness? These shootings are by design of your culture. It's working as intended, so why should we get upset? I'm all out of upset this week with that other shooting. Sorry. I'll be upset again at the shooting next week.

Look dude, I agree that our culture is shitty and needs reform, and we have an idiotic gun culture that seems the be completely resilient to horrifying events like this. But apathy is an acceptance of defeat, and an insult to victims. Imagine saying 'well, I just don't really care that 24 children were just massacred' after Sandy Hook. You'd sound like a sociopath at best.

[Deleted]

Oh look where he's from, how surprising.

those floridians are just crazy!

i thought he was born in USA?

[Chrysia]

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Exactly! And that's why I carry a gun!

No excuse not to carry, especially in Florida, which has "stand your ground" laws.

Pretty sure you still can't carry while at a bar.

[TZucchini]

Well you're certainly doing your fair share to contribute I see.

It's way too early for any type of legitimate discuss to occur. There is very little confirmed. There is a huge amount of information that we simply do not know.

[Wildtree]

So now.....
1. Mateen was American. Born in New York.
2. According to his father, this was likely not a religious motivated attack. Mateen was an outright homophobe.

[Deletedaccount1]

It's way too early for any type of legitimate discuss to occur. There is very little confirmed. There is a huge amount of information that we simply do not know.

Then why are you already spewing political crap?

[Cthulhu 2020]

Of course I do. But I'm not going to express that in this thread. It was a cesspool before I got here.

Pretty much. Most attacks on gays and abortion clinics have been you know who, but they're acting like him being a Democrat is somehow a common thing. They're really reaching on that one.

[Saeran]

This thread makes me depressed. People need to think about the victims and their families and not have petty arguements.. MMOChamp to a tee nowadays.

[Slant]

Look dude, I agree that our culture is shitty and needs reform, and we have an idiotic gun culture that seems the be completely resilient to horrifying events like this. But apathy is an acceptance of defeat, and an insult to victims. Imagine saying 'well, I just don't really care that 24 children were just massacred' after Sandy Hook. You'd sound like a sociopath at best.

Well, aren't you defeated? You're literally at the mercy of the gun lobby indoctrinating the country into arming up until everyone is a danger to everyone else. Potentially. I'm waiting every week for someone to make a stand and say no more, no more guns, no more stupidity. Alas, I am disappointed every week. More guns, more stupidity, more shootings. Tell me honestly, this now being a weekly thing, how long do you want people to care? For the 52th week in a row? How long can you care before just throwing up your hands in the air and going "To hell with it, I'm all out of tears, do what you want..."

[Chrysia]

So now.....
1. Mateen was American. Born in New York.
2. According to his father, this was likely not a religious motivated attack. Mateen was an outright homophobe.

Well, maybe not explicitly religious. It's not crazy to say that his homophobia was exacerbated by is faith.

[RobertMugabe]

Of Course the main issue of all this is Islam and not the gun laws and american culture, because all the other mass shooters in America are Muslims as well. /s

[Cricket22]

You have to be completely stupid and SJW to wait a whole 19 minutes for the press conference. Before, y'know, doing the manly man thing, and start posting about how Trump wall will stop all of this. (Wait, guys, the guy is from Afghanistan, and I don't think a wall would-SHUT YAH MOUTH, LIBURAL)

Yeah, I knew he was From Afghanistan too, just didn't think it was relevant to mention. I knew the shooter's name at 8 this morning, because that's I turned on Fox News.

A police chief's press release is not more authoritative than the FBI agent working the case or the 2 congressmen who were weighing in.

This entire nonsensical argument is nothing more than a diversionary tactic, to draw attention away from the fact that this was an act of Islamic terrorism against our country.

[Deletedaccount1]

Pretty much. Most attacks on gays and abortion clinics have been you know who, but they're acting like him being a Democrat is somehow a common thing. They're really reaching on that one.

I haven't seen anyone say that besides you. It sounds like you are building up arguments you want to hear from the other side so you can knock them down.