The west was never really united, even after WW2 France and the UK were doing plenty that US didnt like and the reverse was also true. We are as united as ever, we just have a 24 hour news cycle that makes the world worse than it is.
The west was never really united, even after WW2 France and the UK were doing plenty that US didnt like and the reverse was also true. We are as united as ever, we just have a 24 hour news cycle that makes the world worse than it is.
We need to bring back public decorum, politeness, or the "dont be a dick" rule to the public, because it seems to have faded for some reason.
Unity is overrated, it's conflict that drives our species.
A common enemy is probably the only way our country will unite. Thanks to Obama and all these SJWs, our country is more divided than it's ever been since I can remember.
60's and part of the 70's are calling....but you said "that you can remember" so...I figure you were born well after those time periods OR don't do a lot of history reading.
You are correct though, this is a nation VERY much divided.
We better learn how to talk to each other (not the screaming/guilt tripping shit we do now) or it will continue to be so...I would even venture to say it "could" lead to another ...well, I wont say it so...maybe it wont happen.
Unless we have another Giant war WW2 style...that seemed to unite the states, so did the start of the Gulf war ..2...not so much when we went to Iraq though.
I agree with most of this. I think however, the problem is the world shifting too far to the left. Allowing crazy things to happen like "open borders". Thinking that it is the West's responsibility to let 5+ billion people in from the 3rd world and take care of them which isn't economically viable and is sure to kill your own nationality in the process.
The biggest problem though is greed and the media. Greedy corporations that own the media and flood it with misinformation. Now because of greedy corporations the the bought out media-our actions in the last 2 decades coupled with the actions of terrorists and newly created terrorists we now have the world today. The western leaders of the world have tried to play the "guilt card" on western citizens for the actions of a few of them. Thus Europe let in millions of refugee's(refugee's created by western agents I'm sure) who mainly now live off of the tax payers of those countries while only increasing the crime rate and segregating themselves and creating ghetto's and "no go" zones for police. Which helped lead to the Paris attack last year and why the surviving terrorists were able to hide within the muslim population without being handed over to the police.
Now we have people in the Obama administration who are apart or have ties with The muslim brotherhood. CAIR was designated a terrorist organization by our own arab allies in the middle east yet they are invited to state dinners at the white house.
ISIS was armed and funded by the Obama admin and Obama went on the air to the world and said "We are going to arm the moderate muslim rebels to fight assad" well, they then turned around and used those weapons to cause mass death and destruction while changing their name to ISIS. It is a huge shit sandwich and the western population has been told to take a huge bite.
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because banning illegal aliens is wrong, right Fuck our laws right? lol
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Blaming everything on race, gender, and sexual orientation while being a hypocrite at the same time. Oh, and PC culture because..."other opinions and idea's are evil because they don't align with mine"
We're going through a rough patch. We'll be fine.
The past 15 years have alienated people to the traditional right and left which has allowed extremists on the right and left their largest opening in decades. They'll fail of course, as they always do, because our "problems", such as they are, aren't solved by hard right or hard left sloganeering. Donald Trump, the UKIP, SYRIZA, PODEMOS, the National Front. All cut from the same counter-establishment cloth.
SJWs? Come back in five years and people will be like "oh I remember that term". All these things flare out. Anger has NEVER been an enduring political motivation. People, generally speaking, are not angry by inclination and can't sustain anger over years.
The political establishment needs to find it's voice and stand up for itself again. it needs to beat down these extremists and remind their constituencies that it was political consensus on the right and left that brought the West the highest standard of living the world has ever known. Far from being a failure, our politics are the historic picture of success. That isn't to say they're perfect - far from it actually. But they do deliver tangible, positive results, pretty regularly. That process takes time. I think a large part of it will be politicians in office between 2007 and 2011 just being cycled out of office naturally.
The best thing we can do right now is just get it out of our system and wait it out. We can't let our anger at "the elites" lead us to do anything irreversibly stupid (shut down NATO, BREXIT, building a stupid wall, etc).
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Esp Christianity has been so binding that religious wars, genocide, reformation, counter-reformation have killed entire nations, consumed millions and brought ruin to half the continent. Please, if you want to troll, at least pick a semi-believable position.
Europe was always divided. When there was temporarily no war, there was recovery and preparation for war. We had 70 years of RELATIVE peace (relative, because Greece, Yugoslavia etc beg to differ) because, and ONLY because, the horrors of WW2 have scared us straight. It's an exception, not the rule. People who remember it are dying out. People whose parents lived through it, are retiring slowly. Again, loudmouth cretins will rule who forgot (or rather, never knew) what it means to starve, die in the fucking trenches, lose loved ones, shit yourself to death from dysentery. And so, the cycle will repeat itself, like it always has, like it always will.
And I have the dubious pleasure to live in a place that's in the middle of this mess every time. The day WW3 starts, I'll just eat a bullet and be done with it.
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The US is very divided. It's quite sad.
Multiculturalism will be the downfall of Western Civilization. But hey, as the last remnants of what was western civilization dies out, they can remember they earned all those social justice points.
Better to be dead than -possibly- offend somebody and be a racist / bigot / whateverphobe.
However, hopefully we elect somebody who wants to reignite the US image again, instead of promoting identity politics and progressing the cultural rot we are suffering from.