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Maybe they can't fix it, like they can't fix their spaghetti netcode.
Other shooters work just fine, but blizz apparently used their wow or diablo netcode for a shooter, which they now can't fix without breaking the game for 20 % of the players.
Just because they are a huge developer with much money does not mean they create the best game code.
Intentionally? No, because it allows the turrets to fire through the bridge, which is clearly not intended design.
I know I'm not the person that you were first speaking to, but that's my 2 cents and my justification.
On the original exploit/cheat in this thread, I'd give a reaper the benefit of the doubt if he accepted death when someone ulted. The fact he's wraithing every time he hears Hanzo's ult activate makes any claims it's unintentional suspect. He knows he's on point and that you can't win as long as he's in there.
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This, I agree with.
I don't think they should fire upwards through the bridge. That's not intended. If the crack were there and they only fired downwards, I would say it would be fine, because they can be avoided by going around the far side of the payload to push it or walking around the back path instead of trying to push through the underpass.
My bigger issue here is that I've seen plenty of threads on this on the official forums and started seeing them here and I'm overly irritated at seeing how people keep exaggerating about it. They're not invincible. You can clearly see them, you can clearly kill them. It's not even remotely similar to the Reaper exploit in Anubis.
And I trust Blizzard will fix it, if they ever get around to fixing the other stuff they say they will. Like McRightClick the tank killer. :P
Which is weird for me because I've also read people say "Oh Winston can eat them nps" but I spent the entire remainder of the round trying to kill them as Winston approaching from most angles (I presume I missed one because people say there is a location where they are visible) but from under the bridge over the top of the bridge, and from the other side of the wall his Tesla cannon thing did squat and I just got burned down by 6 sentries I wonder if maybe there are 2 different spots that are similar in effect because about 5 minutes of trying to find them and kill them until the round ended wasn't enough
I mean I'm faar from average at the game, but I still kinda feel like if it takes the rest of the round to work out how to shoot those things that are shooting you, that's pretty fucking cheesy Certainly I reported them for cheating.
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Oh boy, like thats even on the same level
a good way to lose $60
There's a way to get on top of that part of the map, but you have to point at a very specific spot on a ceiling and then teleport a second time (you can also get in to the defending spawn area). Also, once inside the statue, you *can* get back out by teleporting back up. I have done this in a custom game as a PoC. There's no way this is an accident.
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There is a similar spot on Rt66. Go through left door after last check point, Reaper can lodge himself above the door.
I'm sure it's the same spot. The first time I saw it done, I was playing D.Va and looked on the inside wall and didn't see them, flew up top and didn't see them...took less than two minutes for me to figure out where they were, get under the crack and shoot them all down without even getting knocked out of my mech.
That's the thing though. If people didn't waste their time actually trying to take them out and just figured out another way to avoid them, they'd push the payload past it no problem. Like I said, they can push the payload from the far side or use the back path to avoid the underpass altogether. There are so many threads on this too that I believe most players have probably seen it by now and know how to counter it.
I haven't tried Winston myself, but D.Va can kill them, I've seen Junkrat kill them easily, and something like a Soldier 76 or Pharah under a Reinhardt shield can take them out easily as well. I've read Winston and a Reinhardt fire strike can kill them too.
To me it's not even close to the same level as Reaper actually BEING inside of a wall or a Torb turret being inside of a wall. Those things are glitching on another level. I'm really hoping Blizzard is getting a lot of fixes in today during down time.
I've only seen 3 cheaters since I started - 3 people who I'm at least 90% sure were cheating, although honestly one of them seemed really pointless and might have been a glitch. I'm level 50, now.
Two were aimbots, ya'know the guys - 4k+ DPI and 100% scoped critical accuracy.
Last one was bizarre and my entire group was just..confused at it. We knocked a Zarya off the world and she just appeared about 20 feet from where she was knocked off of. Even the Zarya seemed confused, so I'm not sure if it was intentional.
I'm sure I've been with or against more aimbots, but It's really hard to tell a good aimbot from a good widowmaker from cs:go/cod/*insertfpshere*. My group generally reports anyone who "snaps" when they headshot with high DPI.
In any game that exists - people are going to cheat. It's unfortunate, but a fact of gaming. I'm sure Blizz will be dolling out bans soon enough. I know my friend who used an Aimbot lasted about 2 hours before getting perma-banned, so they definitely are watching cheaters. Report, Bugreport and move on.
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Where is this "crack" (I remember your description from the other thread but not actually got a round on Dorado to investigate further). As for worrying about them, I was mostly curious and I'm a pretty crappy team player at times anyway :S
Reaper no, but not sure I see a massive difference between this and a Torb turret, you're forcing the team into a tiny spot essentially (if they are using the payload as cover to move it) and 2 Pharahs could keep that covered, let alone Bastions or Torbs in sight of it. Both are just bent And I "main" Symmetra insofar as /Played is concerned and find this 'abuse' to be beneath a hero that's already a beastTo me it's not even close to the same level as Reaper actually BEING inside of a wall or a Torb turret being inside of a wall. Those things are glitching on another level. I'm really hoping Blizzard is getting a lot of fixes in today during down time.
But fair enough, thanks for replying and sating my curiosity, I'll take that as a "Not really legit, but its hardly the worst thing someone could do" regarding the initial question, or did I read this wrong?
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