so why dont we add a glyph for feral/gaurdian druids to be able to not be in those forms...? (i would like this but it would be weird...)that would be fine, then we would have to worry about "oh their weapons" but right now that is not a plan so...
also not being able to change how your form looks, it being the same as allways since vanilla, were finally getting customization for the forms and now people are complaining about stuff outside of the forms
People are only complaining because the artifacts are something druids have never used. If Feral/Guardian had been given a staff/polearm, even a completely generic one (like the current ones are), people wouldn't be complaining because they could transmog them to the weapons they've been using for years and not have to look like a rogue.
you guys are complaining like your the only one being forced to a weapon type...
demo lock forced to daggers/offhand so 1 option
destro/affliction staves so 1 option
dks frost 1 handed no 2h
vengence dks forced to fist weapons instead of glaives
surv hunters forced to melee polearm or stave
assasination and sudelty are forced to daggers, combat forced to sword or maces
resto and boomkin druids forced to staves, bear forced to fist, and cat to daggers, but both of those spend 90% of in forms
fury warrior is forced to 2 handers
elementle is forced to fist, resto is forced to hammer/axe and shield, and enchance is forced to 1 handed hammer or axe
frost/arcane forced to just staves, where fire is stuck with sword/mace and offhand
brewmaster is stuck with staff/polearm, windwalker with fists and mistweaver with staff or polearm
holy pally forced into 2 handers.. something they have pretty much never used...
holy and disc preists forced to staves, and shadow forced to dagger/offhand
notice how many of those are forced to one option?
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and the reason they were daggers and claws was to fit with the animals that the forms are based on... the fangs of the cat... and the claws of the bear... so it makes sense that these match with them...
the forms are what matter 90% of the time, the weapon itself is not what you see most of the time, imagine how many people woudl be super pissed if they spent tons of time making tons of brand new weapon models, for the 10% of the time the druids spend out of form
what? im saying the weapon fits into the spec because its based on the spirit god that the specs are based on, what kinda polearm could be based on those animals? "wishbone of ashmane" and "cock of ursoc" ?
no the fangs of the biting cat, and claws of the swatting bear
but the weapon itself does not need to have 24 differant looks like other weapons, since you barly see it, and you can still mog them to any daggers you like.
No one's asking for new weapon models for Feral/Guardian (in fact, I just said the opposite). They should just be a weapon type that we've always used so we can continue transmogging them to whatever weapon we prefer using, not something completely new.
And to be fair, I think fists fit the theme well. I just don't like daggers and never have, and have avoided playing a rogue for nine years with that being one of the major reasons. I don't want to be forced to look like a rogue on my druid too.
You're still trying to have it both ways. Either the appearance of the weapon matters or it doesn't.
"It has to be a fist weapon because that makes sense but it's okay because no one sees it." lol
If my bear can have stupid wooden armor strapped to it for Incarnation, it can have a stupid big floppy dong strapped to it too.
Or is 'class fantasy' only important when it suits what Blizzard wants.
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lol "don't worry no one can see it here I'll make it look better"
gg mate
well yes i agree it is weird they are getting weapons they never used (holy paladins, survival hunter say hi) and i do think daggers should be able to be mogged to swords, but fists weapon are a thing on their own and should stay
and yes the weapons do match a theme, the claws and fangs of the cat, the paws, hide, and claws of the bear, it does suck these weapons are being limited to such things but you cant deny feral and bears spend most of them time in their forms, if they had glyphs to allow them to tank/dps well in "human form" would make this a MUCH larger issue and i would be here chanting with you guys
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im saying lore wise and style wise the weapons matter, but appereance wise it does not, also if they were just polearms i bet people would be complaining "ALL 4 DRUID ARTIFACTS ARE STAVES, THIS IS BULLSHIT!"
now that i think about it maybe a polearm with lets say a bunch of fangs alone it, allmost like killrogs jaw bone weapon, but idk what the F a bear "staff" would look like
also im saying if it REALLY hurts him that much, whatever ,he might as well find something to go with it
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mostly because fist weapons have so many differant styles, from glaives up the arms, to fists on the side of the hand, meaning they would have to set "this is where this item will sit on the hip" for all fist weapons, and i guess they dont see that as worth the time, as the issue is even with that, these weapons will do alot of clipping
Holy paladins have had two-handed mace options before (very rarely, but it's still been possible), and two-handed maces are a big part of paladin fantasy in general. Hunters used two-handed weapons for a long time before bows were moved to the melee slot. Neither of those are exactly new, only having a focus on them is new.
They could've filled the "theme" of claws/fangs with a staff or polearm instead, though. When I first heard that the Feral artifact was called the "Fangs of Ashamane" I thought it would be a polearm with the fangs as the blades. And even then, the current daggers look nothing like teeth so a generic polearm wouldn't need to either.
And yes, I can deny that Feral/Guardian spend "most of their time" in form. I've been playing a druid since mid-BC. Most of my time is not spent in form. All of my time in combat is spent in form, yes, and that is a large chunk of game time, but not the majority. A lot of time is spent in cities or traveling while mounted or just doing general things that aren't combat-related and don't require being in form.
and you dont have 12 years of fists gathered?
3 examples of druid fists i have found that would be nice (aswell as the base fist weapons allready looking rather nice)
http://www.wowhead.com/item=18203/es...64#modelviewer
http://www.wowhead.com/item=37693/gr...64#modelviewer
http://www.wowhead.com/item=91745/ma...64#modelviewer
and even more based on colour/armor, these are just ones i found that look like the "general druid"
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yeah very rarely, now forced into it, also not for holy, holy ussually used 1 handed maces, uther for example, 2 handed hammer is general for ret
and then were never used, so most hunters dropped off their weapons, and have been without one for many years now
yes the fangs as blades would be cool, but i dont even know how a small stick could look like a large meaty bear, without it just being a massive object...
and yes but those are for not in combat, where weapons are not really thrown about anyways