Elune Made The Narru

[DemonHunter18]

its seems that Xe'ra is a chick.

[RedGamer030]

But even with that, moon priestesses using arcane magic as offensive spells has never changed. It's been a constant. Accept it. Learn from it. Grow. Move on with your life.

Yeah, because Moon Priestesses only casting Holy spells on World of Warcraft means that they are secretly casting Arcane spells when no one is looking! /s

You need to "accept it, learn from it, grown, and move on with your life."

[Magistrate]

"Before life began, before even the cosmos took shape, there was Light..."
-World of Warcraft Chronicle: Volume 1, page 18

Nothing predates the Light...

He said the explosion, not technically the Light, itself.

[LazarusLong]

Yeah, because Moon Priestesses only casting Holy spells on World of Warcraft means that they are secretly casting Arcane spells when no one is looking! /s

You need to "accept it, learn from it, grown, and move on with your life."

Tyrande is casting arcane spells. Right now. So as other priests. Go raid Darnassus.

[Leviatharan]

Priestesses use Holy magic, which comes from the Light - hence the term PRIESTESS.
Druids use Nature magic, which comes from Life.

Next time, take a look at the planes map detailed in the Chronicle.

Thing is, the Planes map is just proof toward my argument that the Priestesses of Elune might be channeling Titanic powers.

"Priest" just means they worship someone and are a conduit of their will. There are Priests of the Old Gods too, who use Void magic - which is the basis for our Shadow Priests.
There are Naga Priestesses who worship the Tides (and possibly Azshara herself), giving them power over Water and Frost. There are Troll Priests who worship the Loa, giving them pseudo-Druidic powers or control over Shadow. There are Pandaren Priests for the August Celestials who wield Mist magic, and Yaungol Priests of Ordos who wield Fire magic.

Being a "Priest" doesn't automatically make you use the Light - not even all of our Priests do it. Our access in-game is just limited to the most common religions of the Alliance and Horde, whereas Night Elves would be fairly exclusive in the Elune worship. So yes, there can be a race whose Priestesses can wield the Arcane; we are not without precedent.

As for the other matter:
While most Druids draw from the Wild as a source for Nature magic, Balance Druids - fitting their name - balance power over the Moon (Arcane) and the Sun (Nature). Try playing one before making judgments. I simply brought them up because they have more powers explicitly associated with Elune than playable Priests do.

This is wrong. Priestesses of Elune's control of Holy & Shadow magic isn't any different from the Silver Hand, especially when the Paladin Campaign in legion features the Priestess of Elune, Delas Moonfang, becoming a paladin after fashioning a suit of armor & sword from meteorites.

Yes, that actually happens.

Cool, and that'd be a first. Maybe some do both, maybe she swapped religions. Keeping in mind that the Paladin questline also has a Dreadlord who bleeds Holy Light - there's a whole heap of question-begging exceptions there.
(Personal guess is her control of the Light is partitioned away from her control of the Arcane. Or maybe, just maybe, she follows the same path through which Elune used Arcane powers to create Naaru of the Light as Khadgar suggested.)

I'd still like to direct you to: Priestesses of the Moon in WC3, whose 4th ability is the basis of the Druids' Starfall; Tyrande Whisperwind in Darnassus, who can cast Moonfire and Starfall in the exact form as Druids; Echo of Tyrande in the End Time dungeon, whose abilities all deal with the Moon and Stars and dish out Arcane damage; and Tyrande Whisperwind in the Well of Eternity dungeon (and Siege of Orgrimmar raid), whose Lunar Shots deal Arcane damage AND who provides a blessing that grants bonus Arcane damage against Demons - atypically for handling demons, not Holy.
The only thing she dishes out that isn't Arcane or Physical, is a flaming arrow.

Sorry to overdo it on Tyrande's part, but if I recall correctly (a little story about how she became High Priestess), she's kind of Elune's chosen. Tyrande wouldn't need to dabble in other fields, even if you found one Priestess who apparently did.

Any time it is explicitly mentioned that someone is channeling the power of the Moon in WoW, it is always - ALWAYS - associated with Arcane damage. All Balance Druid spells associated with their Lunar phase are Arcane, just as all associated with their Solar powers are Nature.

And as RedGamer so helpfully pointed out above, the Arcane is the domain of Titans.

[Wildmoon]

That tome only theorizes that Elune created the naaru whereas the Chronicle definitely states the naaru were created from combined shards of Light. Not sure why it is so hard to understand...

They do not necessarily have to contradict each other. All Naaru who have ever existed may not have been created in the moment of the beginning of the universe.

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Anyway it could have worked for entirely different reasons. Examples:
The Tear might not have anything to do with Elune and might be the core of a naaru related to X'era that landed on Azeroth and the Night Elves named "The Tear of Elune"

It's stated to be one of the pillars of creation so I don't think it could land on Azeroth because the chronicle stated that the titans have the pillars to the watchers. Also, it's strange that why the night elves only named 1 pillars after their gods? they had their hands on the Eye of Aman'Thul too but the name is still the name of a titan. The Night Elves have more than 1 god they worship. Elune is just the highest in status.

[RedGamer030]

Tyrande is casting arcane spells. Right now. So as other priests. Go raid Darnassus.

As stated before, Warcraft NPCs tend to multi-class. The Gladiator NPCs in Ashran have both Hunter and Warrior abilities.

Thing is, the Planes map is just proof toward my argument that the Priestesses of Elune might be channeling Titanic powers.

"Priest" just means they worship someone and are a conduit of their will.

Priests worship the Light, therefore have Holy magic (or the Void for Shadow Magic). There are no Priests that worship Order, where Arcane magic comes from, since all the Priests worship the Light.

[TyrannicalPuppy]

"Before life began, before even the cosmos took shape, there was Light..."
-World of Warcraft Chronicle: Volume 1, page 18

Nothing predates the Light...

Read his comments again.

"...before the light and shadow explosion..."

As in before Warcraft's Big Bang. No need to abuse the ellipsis.

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Priestesses use Holy magic, which comes from the Light - hence the term PRIESTESS.
Druids use Nature magic, which comes from Life.

Next time, take a look at the planes map detailed in the Chronicle.

Priestess =/= Holy universally. A priest or priestess is simply a practitioner of their religion. The night elven religion revolves around Elune. Elune exhibits both Divine and Arcane qualities.

[kary]

Just throwing it out there that light and arcane aren't mutually exclusive

[RedGamer030]

Elune exhibits both Divine and Arcane qualities.

Elune exhibits moon qualities in Night Elven society, unless you mean to say you have actually seen Elune running around casting Holy and Arcane spells, at which point you can render this discussion mute and show us definitive proof of exactly what Elune really is.
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Oh, you cannot? Then why did you bother saying anything?

[Aquamonkey]

Elune exhibits moon qualities in Night Elven society, unless you mean to say you have actually seen Elune running around casting Holy and Arcane spells, at which point you can render this discussion mute and show us definitive proof of exactly what Elune really is.
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Oh, you cannot? Then why did you bother saying anything?

Moonwell waters are said to possess the very essence of Elune's Powers. Moonwells are arcane and holy.

[TyrannicalPuppy]

As stated before, Warcraft NPCs tend to multi-class. The Gladiator NPCs in Ashran have both Hunter and Warrior abilities.


Priests worship the Light, therefore have Holy magic (or the Void for Shadow Magic). There are no Priests that worship Order, where Arcane magic comes from, since all the Priests worship the Light.

Human, dwarf, and blood/high elf priests worship the Holy Light. Again, a priest is a practitioner of a religion and no more. In game mechanics, sure, all priests USE the Light (unless you're a Shadow or Discipline priest, in which case you use Shadow or both, respectively), but game mechanics =/= lore.

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Elune exhibits moon qualities in Night Elven society, unless you mean to say you have actually seen Elune running around casting Holy and Arcane spells, at which point you can render this discussion mute and show us definitive proof of exactly what Elune really is.
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Oh, you cannot? Then why did you bother saying anything?

Why do you feel the need to be so hostile? Did someone piss is your cereal this morning? Feel the need to take it out on MMO-C?

Aquamonkey and Leviatharan have already spelled it out plain and simply for you. Elune's chosen priestess uses spells that deal in the arcane. Moonwells are fonts of both Arcane and Divine magic.

Moreover, however, is that the night elves always believed that Elune was within the Well of Eternity. That is where they all, Druids, Priestesses, and Arcanists alike, drew their power from. Do you know what the Well of Eternity was? A massive fucking font of Arcane energy.

[RedGamer030]

Moonwell waters are said to possess the very essence of Elune's Powers. Moonwells are arcane and holy.

Are said =/= they do. I thought you would stick to that with the whole Void Lord jealousy of Titan debate, but you are more like Mitt Romney when it comes to debates - you flip-flop where it is beneficial to you and only you.

Aquamonkey and Leviatharan have already spelled it out plain and simply for you.

What did they spell out? There is no evidence that Priestesses of the Moon use Arcane spells!!! Holy fuck you are moronic.

[TyrannicalPuppy]

Are said =/= they do. I thought you would stick to that with the whole Void Lord jealousy of Titan debate, but you are more like Mitt Romney when it comes to debates - you flip-flop where it is beneficial to you and only you.



What did they spell out? There is no evidence that Priestesses of the Moon use Arcane spells!!! Holy fuck you are moronic.

And you continue with the hostility. That's not going to get you anywhere. Neither is tripling your punctuation or uncalledfor name-calling.

I don't know how many times you've already been told that Tyrande and multiple priestess NPCs use spells that inflict Arcane damage or empower you with additional Arcane damage. I don't know how many more times you need to be told. But until you settle down and act less puerile, this will be the last post I direct at you.

[Enthralled]

What did they spell out? There is no evidence that Priestesses of the Moon use Arcane spells!!! Holy fuck you are moronic.

Except for the fact that Starfall is the Ultimate ability for the entire class in W3, and Tyrande (the High Priestess herself) still uses it and Moonfire. And Shandris Feathermoon has an extremely overpowered version of it that she casts which is renamed "Prayer of the Moon Goddess". Except for these things, no evidence.

[WorgDruid]

Didn't starfall also exist for night elf priests in vanilla back when they had racial spells? I seem to remember that they had an arcane damage dot.

[Aquamonkey]

Are said =/= they do. I thought you would stick to that with the whole Void Lord jealousy of Titan debate, but you are more like Mitt Romney when it comes to debates - you flip-flop where it is beneficial to you and only you.

That's why I specifically wrote "it is said." I presented it exactly as it is in the lore. I didn't present it as a fact of the universe. Seems like you're just looking for any excuse to get angry and confrontational.

[RedGamer030]

Blah blah blah.

Keep talking... keep talking... Everyone is SO interested by you and your knowledge...

[huth]

Except for the fact that Starfall is the Ultimate ability for the entire class in W3, and Tyrande (the High Priestess herself) still uses it and Moonfire. And Shandris Feathermoon has an extremely overpowered version of it that she casts which is renamed "Prayer of the Moon Goddess". Except for these things, no evidence.

And it is a Holy magic(not holy damage) spell in WC3 and a Nature magic spell in WoW. It is not, at any point, an Arcane magic spell. It only deals arcane damage.

[LazarusLong]

Didn't starfall also exist for night elf priests in vanilla back when they had racial spells? I seem to remember that they had an arcane damage dot.

Yes, it did.

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Keep talking... keep talking... Everyone is SO interested by you and your knowledge...

Actually, Aquamonkey is quite knowledgeable and tends to back his statements. Unlike you.