Legion Alpha/Beta General Discussion

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I dont know unholy is an absolute blast too me am really enjoying it and frost is kinda well just frost. But we get friggin frostmourne in 2 swords which I think is awesome.But then I love dks :P

[Krom2040]

It's a little silly that premade level 100 characters have to go through the whole Dark Portal quest chain to get to their garrison. You can't currently even get into Draenor content without jumping through that whole hurdle.

[Bashkar]

Personally, I'm tied with Fury and Ret. Ret is good with they get the Ashbringer and all and Fury is cool all by itself.

Fury is a chaotic mess, which is exactly what it should be. Toying with it on the PTR and I'm liking that there isn't really a groove for it like Arms. It's dreadful to play with all the lag, though.

They've done some great work with some specs, just based on the PTR. Arms is still a bit clunky but miles ahead of WOD. Thought I would be switching to Subtlety, but assassination still has a nice hook to it.

I don't really see the concerns people have with Shaman. If you spec yourself right they're pretty intuitive and have a lot going on with them. Once I have something better than a target dummy to work with, can get a better gauge.

Fire Mage is just stupid levels of fun to play. Just feels right.

[Yamzi]

Is the copy character in beta yet?

[Krom2040]

Fury is a chaotic mess, which is exactly what it should be.

I would probably disagree with the notion that it *should* be like it is right now. The rotation feels like it really only makes sense in single-target fights where the target is above execute range; it's not really even clear how you're supposed to approach execute range, since you have to use so many GCD's on BT, Furious Slash, and Raging Blow just to get build rage and keep the enrage buff up.

I don't know, I just think it's over-complicated for a lot of gameplay situations.

[Seramore]

Fury is probably the funnest it's been since Cataclysm imo. After playing around with the spec I'm pretty tempted to go back to Warrior again. Right now I'm looking at either playing a Warrior, Shaman, or Mage.

[Gloriandus]

Am I just dense, or can you not hide player titles anymore?

[Padwarle]

I... uh... what?


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Best NPC since sliced bread,

[Ersula]

*Logs into PTR*
*Can't do broken shore, heroics, lfr or demon invasion*
*Heads to Tanaan on a pre-made Mage*
*Can barely kill anything as frost*
*Frost Orb now pulls everything*
Thanks, Obama.

[Seramore]

You know, despite all of the bitching I think I'm one of the few who actually likes the ability pruning. After playing around on the PTR and seeing how many abilities are actually usable for classes now, I'm happy that I don't have to worry about using a ton of abilities; especially the really obscure ones that are only used in very few situations. It is weird to see a low amount of abilities in the spell book but I think this will be good for the game in the long run.

[Paula Deen]

You know, despite all of the bitching I think I'm one of the few who actually likes the ability pruning.

Not to be that guy but I am pretty sure Blizzard could shit on a plate and you would like it.

[Seramore]

I don't get why you seem to be under the impression that I'm a Blizzard fanboy just because I don't agree with the senseless bitching.

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Small 40mb patch on Beta....

[Frandaero]

I'm so hyped for Legion. It has the greatest possible potential to be an amazing expansion in my opinion.

[Peach774]

You know, despite all of the bitching I think I'm one of the few who actually likes the ability pruning. After playing around on the PTR and seeing how many abilities are actually usable for classes now, I'm happy that I don't have to worry about using a ton of abilities; especially the really obscure ones that are only used in very few situations. It is weird to see a low amount of abilities in the spell book but I think this will be good for the game in the long run.

I generally like the ability pruning too, but some classes got the short end of the stick. Brewmaster and Windwalker monks along with several warlock specs feel clunky, overly complex and sometimes completely broken. Other specs like Subtlety rogue are so different that the play style of the players before doesn't match what they have now. Some people are rightfully pissed, but it doesn't help that Blizzard is listening to some class feedback but not others. Again, using Brewmaster as an example, there is an entire thread of mostly non-negative helpful feedback but all that has happened is that brewmaster survivability and damage, both of which were fairly low to begin with, have been nerfed even more.

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Small 40mb patch on Beta....

probably hotfixes, specifically for the dalaran blinking quest

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

I'm so hyped for Legion. It has the greatest possible potential to be an amazing expansion in my opinion.

Possibly, they can beat wrath in sub numbers

[Seramore]

Possibly, they can beat wrath in sub numbers

That's a good joke. The golden age of MMO's are over, my dude. WoW will never get that high amount of subs again.

[tristannarutofan]

Not to be that guy but I am pretty sure Blizzard could shit on a plate and you would like it.

Pretty sure if a toddler told you he liked candy you'd tell him he's murdering ppl with his capitalist agenda and then kick him.

Jesus Christ go make friends, eat a tangerine, ask your parents what they did wrong. Do something other than be such a gross excuse of a human being.

[Bashkar]

I would probably disagree with the notion that it *should* be like it is right now. The rotation feels like it really only makes sense in single-target fights where the target is above execute range; it's not really even clear how you're supposed to approach execute range, since you have to use so many GCD's on BT, Furious Slash, and Raging Blow just to get build rage and keep the enrage buff up.

I don't know, I just think it's over-complicated for a lot of gameplay situations.

I think that's part of the fun of it, though. It genuinely feels furious. It's fast, and chaotic, and it's hard to discern what the priorities are. I would assume that Execute takes the place of Rampage from a rage dump standpoint (or precedes it, if you take Massacre), but we'll have to wait for numbers tuning and stat priorities to be calculated to see if it's worth it. Enjoy it while it lasts, because it's going to be analyzed and calculated into the ground. It'll just become muscle memory to all of us, soon enough.

There are ways to speed up / slow down the build, which i think is a sign of successful talent design. It's something that I've seen present in most classes I've tested so far (Mage, Warrior, Shaman, Rogue, Hunter, Priest, and Paladin, which I feel has the least amount of variability). Really impressed so far - planning on testing out Warlock soon.

[Paula Deen]

Pretty sure if a toddler told you he liked candy you'd tell him he's murdering ppl with his capitalist agenda and then kick him.

Jesus Christ go make friends, eat a tangerine, ask your parents what they did wrong. Do something other than be such a gross excuse of a human being.

Sounds like some serious projecting my friend.