Thal'Dranath scrapped

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When you make an assertion, it's incumbent upon you to back it up with evidence. You're asserting that Thal'Dranath was being developed in some kind of serious way. Well, back that shit up with some proof or shut the fuck up.

Basically this.

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it was being worked on. it was going to be patch content. now its not.
how much work is still unknown.

Either you show a proof or you get reported for trolling.

[Infernix]

it was being worked on. it was going to be patch content. now its not.
how much work is still unknown.

Prove it.

/10char

[Pua]

So long as the patch content is solid, I don't especially care. They could call it "Aviemore is a Cock Island" and I'd happily play it if it's well designed and has plentiful content.

Something of a PR disaster for them, though. They've been ultra-careful with Legion in order to avoid announcements like this, yet still ended up having to make one.

[Traveler Voltin]

Prove it.

/10char

why announce something as patch content then not work on it in any form?

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Either you show a proof or you get reported for trolling.

the "he has to be trolling" bullshit again.

[Tharkkun]

Except the island this thread is about. Which just so happened to be shown on a map at blizzcon.



Which is awesome and i'm happy it looks like blizzard got a kick in the butt for the atrocity that is WoD. Legion looks much better but we don't need anything resembling WOD's business model going forward. We can all agree on that.




Let's just hope they don't leave LEGION to rot as they did WOD. I would love to have a lot of faith in them and what they are doing but they seriously damaged WOW with WOD. They did show this area on the map at blizzcon so technically they did announce it. How far they were into making it? Nobody but the devs will know that.

That's where you're wrong. Blizzcon was a sneak peak into the development process and where they might be headed. It has never and never will be a direct view of finalized features. Especially a year ahead of release. That's what people don't understand.

In Development you toss every shitty idea at the wall, lay it out and then start working on them. The ones that are still cool months into it you keep. The others you don't. Proof of that was a completely flat, empty, non textured zone. The idea was so terrible they didn't put more than 5 minutes into it.

[Infernix]

why announce something as patch content then not work on it in any form?

So, you're asserting that an announcement = working on it. lol

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why announce something as patch content then not work on it in any form?

They are working on the patches content, they simply changed the concept. It's not the first time (it happens since Vanilla, Outland was supposed to be a patch content).

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the "he has to be trolling" bullshit again.

Because it's quite simple, on a debate you have to show proof of your claims or else it's pure old school trolling.

[Tharkkun]

you waste resources when you change direction

Except the amount of resources spent on Thal'Dranath was zilch. They had a flat piece of land. It probably took 5 minutes to create that base and brainstorm what they wanted the island to be. Other than that no development time went into it.

[Traveler Voltin]

They are working on the patches content, they simply changed the concept. It's not the first time (it happens since Vanilla, Outland was supposed to be a patch content).

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Because it's quite simple, on a debate you have to show proof of your claims or else it's pure old school trolling.

they scrapped one concept for another.

they could have been developing it more. we dont fucking know because its all internal. they dont tell us shit until something changes or it actually happens.

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Except the amount of resources spent on Thal'Dranath was zilch. They had a flat piece of land. It probably took 5 minutes to create that base and brainstorm what they wanted the island to be. Other than that no development time went into it.

do you know that 100% for sure?

[nazrakin]

Blizzard knows again what they think we want and what we like. Just like always.

There is no collective "we". Everyone has their own opinions with wildly varying degrees of conviction. Blizzard is going to decide what they think most of us want and like because warcraft is not a pizza and thats how multi-million dollar product development works.

[Erixi]

Im pretty sure scrapped and replaced are two very different words.



Just what the xpack thats 99% NE ruins needed more NE ruins right?

Oh I agree. Asides, not like things don't get changed in every single game. Better to have something better and finished, then something without and heart and half done.

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they scrapped one concept for another.

Five minutes of brainstorm. "Instead of going to a new island on Broken Shore and create a story there, why not go to (insert place here) and fight the Legion?"

[Traveler Voltin]

Five minutes of brainstorm. "Instead of going to a new island on Broken Shore and create a story there, why not go to (insert place here) and fight the Legion?"

Legion expansion fighting legion.

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Legion expansion fighting legion.

Who else would we fight in Legion?

[Deleted]

So, you're asserting that an announcement = working on it. lol

To play the Devil's advocate- They more than likely have worked on it, else they wouldn't just put a random island with a thought-out name on the map when announcing the game. We're talking about a company, that is known to work almost one expansion ahead(I do recall they said it on multiple ocasions that they have a team working ahead-of-the-pack). So yeah, even if it was empty on the alpha/beta, it doesn't mean that they haven't done/prepared anything for it at all.

[Tharkkun]

they scrapped one concept for another.

they could have been developing it more. we dont fucking know because its all internal. they dont tell us shit until something changes or it actually happens.

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do you know that 100% for sure?

Do you? Nothing has been patched into beta so it's an easy conclusion. I could understand if the island was partially textured but there's nothing. Since it was removed from the map months ago you can assume any development time since early alpha went towards the new idea.

[Traveler Voltin]

Who else would we fight in Legion?

new story can be created anywhere. even on a preplanned placed.

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To play the Devil's advocate- They more than likely have worked on it, else they wouldn't just put a random island with a thought-out name on the map when announcing the game. We're talking about a company, that is known to work almost one expansion ahead(I do recall they said it on multiple ocasions that they have a team working ahead-of-the-pack). So yeah, even if it was empty on the alpha/beta, it doesn't mean that they haven't done/prepared anything for it at all.

this close to release for legion. they have probably already started working on the concept for the expansion after it.

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To play the Devil's advocate- They more than likely have worked on it, else they wouldn't just put a random island with a thought-out name on the map when announcing the game. We're talking about a company, that is known to work almost one expansion ahead(I do recall they said it on multiple ocasions that they have a team working ahead-of-the-pack). So yeah, even if it was empty on the alpha/beta, it doesn't mean that they haven't done/prepared anything for it at all.

Actually, they did said when Thal'Dranath appeared on the announcement map that was conceptualized just before the announcement, with no work done at all. Then we saw the blob of land in the alpha, just to be removed some patches afterwards.

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this close to release for legion. they have probably already started working on the concept for the expansion after it.

A concept that can change several times, just like WoD (from mongrel Horde, to Garrosh ressurecting the Warlords in Outland, to a major plan from the Infinite Dragonflight to what we really had in WoD). It's called development process, things are always being changed.

One example, Argent Tournament was supposed to be in Crystalsong, but because tech issues (Dalaran being flying over the zone), they moved the zone to where it stands now.

[Arcangel14]

Guys guys, don't feed the haters. Just let them have their moment of "I'm right and you're wrong", and then when the real 7.2 content is announced, we can take the high road and be excited about how much better it will be than an island of legion-influenced NE ruins.

Also it's funny how flip flop everyone is. First they say for sure there are 3 tiers and everyone is excited, and then they say Thal'Dranath was replaced with something better, and people act like it's WoD all over again. Meh.

[Uoyredrum]

Maybe it'll be Fahralon