Well, it's happening, Trump is starting to lose bad in the polls..

[DeadmanWalking]

I believe it is this study:

Verbal intelligence is correlated with socially and economically liberal beliefs
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...60289614000373

Did you even read this study? This article is some guy translating another study, basically it says liberals socialist ideology are held by higher IQ people than Religious belief people, BUT for 'verbal intellect' Republicans are better.

He's basically saying, "Well... if you look at it from this angle..." and is twisting the details of the study to repurpose the facts to fit his ideology.

Which just goes to show that you don't even know what the fuck that guy was talking about when he was talking about what someone else was talking about. Now tell me again about IQ levels...

[alexw]

could you spew any more meaningless buzzwords you imbecile?

Then tell me where my statement is wrong. Did not the republican party recruit the southern racists via the southern strategy? Do not a large part of the republican base believe Obama is a Kenyan Muslim? Did not a significant part of the republican base see absolutely nothing wrong with the statements Trump made about the Hispanic Judge overseeing his Trump university case? Do not a large fraction of republicans believe man made global warming is a global conspiracy pushed by the scientific community?

I could go on and on but I'm sure you get the picture. The republican party has spend decades recruiting and cultivating a base that lives in its own distorted reality bubble. Don't get me wrong there are some nutters on the left too. But whereas those nutters make up a tiny fraction of the democratic coalition, the nutters on the right make up at least 1/3 of the republican coalition.

[PC2]

Well, or both the Democrats and Republicans can have a come to Jesus moment and actually choose candidates that do not have so many problems?

Or, a better turn of events, the Libertarian and Green Parties become viable (Yes, I know that's dreaming)

If both are conservatives I don't see the problem. You're a science/tech enthusiast, as long as progress happens there, that is ultimately what matters!

[alexw]

You're proving the point, the GOP had become too PC and soft on migration and amnesty.

Yes of course.... because as we know the majority of Mexican migrants are rapists and criminals and only a minority of them are good decent people. Not because its true of course, but because if you are republican base voter you are more likely than not to hate anyone who has brown skin, because that is what good white natavist xenophobes do.

[DeadmanWalking]

And just because someone puts a study up on a website doesn't make it a fact, anyone can make a study and place it on a science website for review, at which point it gets torn to shit by other people in the field. Oh my god, it says what I want it to say and its on the internet! Nobody but the bestest brains in the world are allowed to do that!

[alexw]

Yeah ok.

Please list for us the policies Trump intends to put forth that you like but don't involve anything against a given race or religion or gender? We'll wait.......

There isn't any of course. Just look at his posting history and you can see that he is exactly one of those bigoted, racist, natavist, cranks I was talking about. Oh so much stuff about refugees, transsexuals, and his hatred of the "other".

[Shudder]

If another attack like Orlando happens within a week or two of the election, Trump is going to be the next POTUS.

Really? Cause one just happened and he nose dived. Now if a Mexican came across the border and did a mass shooting then we find out after the dude has an extreme fear of heights Trump could say I told you so and be right. His wall would have stopped that dude.

It all comes down to if you want a puppet or a lose cannon. I can't see anyone with common sense defending either side. Basically the Republican and Democrats establishments are laughing at all of us saying, haha you have to chose one of us.

It always irritates me when I see someone say loose instead of lose. This is the first time I've seen it backwards.

[zenkai]

Really? Cause one just happened and he nose dived. Now if a Mexican came across the border and did a mass shooting then we find out after the dude has an extreme fear of heights Trump could say I told you so and be right. His wall would have stopped that dude.



It always irritates me when I see someone say loose instead of lose. This is the first time I've seen it backwards.

Sorry I didn't go back and proof read, maybe you should read the forum rules where it talks about correcting spelling and grammar.

[XorMalice]

Pfft, I can find 600 articles that say the complete opposite. Doesn't mean any of those studies are factual.

He linked you to an actual study. You couldn't even bother to google (but could vomit out a bunch of personal attacks against me), and still haven't linked an actual study. My whole point was that a 2-5 IQ difference in favor of Republicans pretty solidly trashes the notion that IQ is a big determiner of voting in either direction. If one party was dumb and the other smart, you'd see a large difference, not a trivial one.

[Shudder]

Like I said, I joked about it. I'm not pushing the idea that it's true.

The other joke, or speculation in this case, early on was he'd get to a certain point and drop out because he just got bored of it. But obviously that didn't happen.

Maybe he's waiting to get his money back that he loaned out to pay for his bid before he drops out.

[Cthulhu 2020]

If another attack like Orlando happens within a week or two of the election, Trump is going to be the next POTUS.

His comments about Orlando killed his ratings. The more mass shootings happen between now and the election, the more people are going to look to the party that wants to do something about it.

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Deporting illegals.

It's a good thing we're talking about securing our border from European illegals, since more of those are coming over each year than Mexicans right now.

Oh... wait...

[Hemak]

His comments about Orlando killed his ratings. The more mass shootings happen between now and the election, the more people are going to look to the party that wants to do something about it.

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You mean the party who wants to address Islam as a problem in the west or the party who want to take away fundamental human rights?

[infinitemeridian]

You mean the party who wants to address Islam as a problem in the west or the party who want to take away fundamental human rights?

Could you be any more hyperbolic? I mean seriously, what fantasy world are you living in? I swear, Trump's base gets nuttier every day.

[judgementofantonidas]

Polls are showing a very high unfavorable rate among American (70%). Polls are showing the lead Clinton has is starting to expand. Things are not going to end well for Trump. GOP keep backing away from him like he has the plague. Trump is going to declare Independent soon, mark my words.

the only thing starting to expand on hillory clitorus is her butt. thats called middle age spread.

[Kontinuum]

Dozens of delegates to the Republican National Convention have launched an effort to dislodge Donald Trump as the GOP’s presidential nominee next month.

The push, first reported by the Washington Post, is the first attempt by anti-Trump delegates in a handful of states to stitch together their splintered efforts to replace the GOP standard-bearer amid a furor among conservatives over his candidacy and sinking poll numbers.

It’s a longshot effort that’s been largely written off by party leaders and hasn’t drawn prominent support from party donors or elected leaders, but it’s the most organized push to date.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...legates-224495

[Hemak]

Could you be any more hyperbolic? I mean seriously, what fantasy world are you living in? I swear, Trump's base gets nuttier every day.

The fantasy world where an Islamic radical just committed the largest massacre in US history because he believed killing gay people is justified (and it is if you read the Quran or listen to Imams). The fantasy world where democrats are trying to prevent people from obtaining firearms without due process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlwxqqAprQ

Quran (2:191-193)
Quran (7:80-84)
Quran (26:165-166)
Quran (4:16)

It's a pretty shitty fantasy bruh.

[Armakus]

Either way, its not like hillary is any better than trump. First female president has alot of vote attraction, even though she laughed at a rape victim after she won the case for the rapist.

I'm so tired of hearing about this. She laughed at the inaccuracy of polygraph tests, not at the victim. Are you serious? Get a grip. Educate yourself a little bit better here:

http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinto...ghed-about-it/

[Pangean]

Oops! Trump Tweets Month-Old Poll Showing Him Almost Not Behind Clinton

As he so often does, Donald Trump on Friday applauded voters for their support, tweeting out a poll with an all-caps "THANK YOU!"

The only thing off was that the survey, which was from May, actually showed Trump trailing Democratic rival Hillary Clinton by two points. His numbers have dropped significantly since then, with Clinton now boasting an eight-point lead, according to TPM's Polltracker Average.

Asked who they would vote for if the general election was held today, 49 percent of respondents to a Gravis Marketing/One America News Network poll chose Trump, compared to 51 percent for Clinton. The survey also appears to have been conducted May 10, although the graphic Trump tweeted carries a June 16 timestamp.

As of Friday afternoon, the top reply to Trump's tweet read simply “uh…”
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...losing-clinton

Just stunning. And bonus points for those who can point out why this survey is bullshit even back then.

"One America News Network and Gravis Marketing, a nonpartisan research firm, conducted a random survey of 1,574 registered voters across the United States. The poll was conducted on May 10th and has a margin of error of ± 2.5% at the 95% confidence level. The total may not round to 100% because of rounding. The polls were conducted using automated telephone calls and weighted by anticipated voting demographics. The poll was conducted for One America News Network."

[Cheerbleeder]

Here is even more proof Trump is boot stomping Clinton. The Trump subreddit has grown by 30% in just a month alone. Let's not forget all about that social media army of his.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/17/11...ubreddit-slimg

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/

[Riistov]

in 2012 the GOP issued a mea culpa, saying they'd do everything in their power to court women, black people, and especially Latino people. .

My girlfriend and I were talking about this the other day. It's like they ignored all the mistakes of the past two election cycles and just barreled ahead with the most untenable goon that they could come up with.

The funny thing is, you see the same thing every four years. Republican mouthpieces and supporters claiming how strong support is and how they are going to "take back the white house". McCain and Romney got demolished, as will Trump. Maybe the fourth time will be the charm?