You just don't get it. What the value of someones vote is is up to them. Not you. You may think it's wasted but as was explained to you what they do with not voting the two major party's is just as important to them as your voting for Trump. I am not surprised you struggle with this concept but it's really not that tough to understand.
What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
I should have included "alone" in that statement. Once you have a group of people living together, some form of agreement is made as to what's allowed and what isn't (i.e. rights).
The constitution can acknowledge w/e it pleases, the existence of God-given-rights depends on the person's beliefs. Bringing in religion, you pretty much acknowledge that natural rights are more subjective than actual fact.
In the end, rights are deemed by the government, enforced by the government, and taken away by the government. It's all based on what is legal or not, nothing natural about it.
The wise wolf who's pride is her wisdom isn't so sharp as drunk.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
No gramps you stated it was a waste. Like I said it's a simple concept that you seem to struggle with. It's only a waste if you believe your reasoning is better than theirs for how they voted. How I vote won't help Trump win. Trump's doing his damnest to ensure that.
What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
False, you vote for who you feel would be best in office out of the candidates that will win. IE Trump or Hillary. Doing it to protest is foolish and will result in someone being in office for at least 4 years to prove a point. For example, republicans right now who won't vote Trump to prove a point, but dislike Hillary even more. You don't vote based off who you do or don't like. That is selfish and asinine. Once the parties reach where they are currently, you really think and vote who will do better for this country. Not trying to use democratic memes like we shouldn't vote at all so they can try and push Hillary into office easier.
Uhm... No, people who vote for the person that wins are responsible for them winning. By your logic, voting for either of the two parties is responsible for third party not having a chance. So, you are just as responsible for Trump winning while voting Hilary, as someone who voted Jill Stein. The differance being, you voted for someone you dislike, because succeeding in what they do, is more important than what they do.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Not false at all. And in fact my vote is specifically saying that neither of the two major candidates are the person I want in office. My vote is saying the system is broken and I want a better system. My vote is saying that continually voting between shit and shit simply gets me shit. I choose another path. I choose to vote for someone who far better represents my views and neither of the two main candidates gets my vote. You on the other hand can keep voting for shit.
What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
I very much doubt that is a possibility. Trump has 1500+ pledged delegates. If he's somehow not the nominee, it would be vastly unprecedented and we'd likely lose the GOP completely. I can't really believe people are still talking about this after Trump won all the everythings.
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This is scary thinking. Rights exist inherently. The bill of rights prevents the government from attempting to deny these rights. You always have your rights.
What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
Trump is actually the best choice. Hes burned down so many bridges the only way anything will get done will be through all sides working together and rigorous debate. He wont be able to use Executive orders without being challenged at every turn by both parties.
The worst case scenario with Trump is nothing gets done and his Presidency is dead on arrival. Then we get better choices in 4-8 years.
Hillary will just abuse her power and the Democrats will support her while the Republicans wave a finger while doing nothing to stop her.
Defeated on a national scale, maybe. They've shifted focus to whatever they can do on a state and local level. You'll note that the continued attempts to introduce creationism into schools is happening at the state level (or lower), and have for a long time.
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No, the worst case scenario is Trump picking supreme court justices. If it wasn't for this, I could actually stomach 4 years of Trump since I'd be able to watch him let down all the idiots by not building the wall.
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It's a cure in the same sense that chopping your leg off definitely cures a toenail fungus infection.
lol.
If you and the rest of the GOP really cared about the illegals coming here, you'd be going after the agribusinesses that not only hire them but smuggle them over. You guys won't do that, because its all about racism and not the actual problem.
https://www.opensecrets.org/industri...cle=2016&ind=A
Agribusiness has given $23.5 million to Repubs this year alone ($8 million to Dems).
"When Facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." - Unknown
I think you mean they'll do everything in their power to obstruct her at every turn, regardless of the collateral damage caused. It's the same game plan they've had for the past 8 years. It's the same game plan that has turned me off from voting for them until they get their head out of their collective ass and act like a pragmatic center right foil to the Dems and not the far right lunacy it's become since GWB burnt all the GOP capital with his shit show of a presidency.
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