The Ebon Blade's new Four Horsemen (massive spoilers)

[Combatbutler]

Allow me to disagree but I believe otherwise. They are not the same.

They use the exact same methods, they are just like the forsaken and scourge, rotten undead bastards

[Darth-Piekus]

Correction The Scourge Ressurect the dead and put them under their will without even asking. They are rotten undead bastards.

The Forsaken Post Cataclysm ressurect the dead without asking, manipulating them to do their work and then given a choice. They are even worse rotten undead bastards.

The Ebon Blade ressurected ghouls and agents of the lich king that have no souls. The Horsemen are one of the First beings they wanted to ressurect that have souls and they literally bring the spirit back to ask for their help after explaining them the situation. I personally find them much better than the others.

[Traveler Voltin]

Ghouls have souls.
Ebon blade force people
Forsaken give a choice


Your math doesnt add up that forsaken are worse

[Combatbutler]

Correction The Scourge Ressurect the dead and put them under their will without even asking. They are rotten undead bastards.

The Forsaken Post Cataclysm ressurect the dead without asking, manipulating them to do their work and then given a choice. They are even worse rotten undead bastards.

The Ebon Blade ressurected ghouls and agents of the lich king that have no souls. The Horsemen are one of the First beings they wanted to ressurect that have souls and they literally bring the spirit back to ask for their help after explaining them the situation. I personally find them much better than the others.

Really? Thassarian brought his comrade back from the dead to serve him as a skeleton, just because he could, without ever consulting him and ghouls are not soulless, the ebon blade aren't good people never were and never will be.

[Deleted]

The fourth horesman is Highlord Darion Mograine and not Tirion. The 3 other Horsman are shown on the follower list along with Darion under Uncollected.

Darion was your first champion/follower.

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They can't even get close to his tomb. The Light rises up and burns the whole area around it.

The player is trying to raise Tirion , thats why the light rises up to defend his body.

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Really? Thassarian brought his comrade back from the dead to serve him as a skeleton, just because he could, without ever consulting him and ghouls are not soulless, the ebon blade aren't good people never were and never will be.

You really have some kind of a vendetta against the ebon blade , don't you?

[Darth-Piekus]

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Skeleton
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Ghoul

Both of them are mindless creatures bound to the will of the Death Knight and unable to regognise former friends.

[My User Name]

Funny how Sally Whitemane, a member of the Scarlet Crusade - zealots who hated undead more than anyone else, is OK with being Death Knight

[Deleted]

On the whole reraise debate. Simple explanation: the lichking can reraise.

Neither Arthas nor Bolvar would be interested in reraising the forsaken, hence they have the plight.

DKs in both cases are being raised by the lichking.

As for the worgen, the DK worgen are from Silverpine, the rest of playable worgen are gilnean

[Arrashi]

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Skeleton
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Ghoul

Both of them are mindless creatures bound to the will of the Death Knight and unable to regognise former friends.

Actually if you played the game you would know that in plaguelands there is a quest where you destroy the ghouls and release the souls trapped in them.

[Deleted]

Actually if you played the game you would know that in plaguelands there is a quest where you destroy the ghouls and release the souls trapped in them.

Isn't that different tho? Wasn't there something more to it?

[Arrashi]

Isn't that different tho? Wasn't there something more to it?

Yeah, like them begging trapped as undead and after their physical form was destroyed they were released. You know, exactly what ghouls are.

[Combatbutler]

http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Skeleton
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Ghoul

Both of them are mindless creatures bound to the will of the Death Knight and unable to regognise former friends.

Just because they are mindless does not mean they don't have souls attached to them, because ghouls have souls. The ebon blade simply uses them as canon fodder, heck in legion you mass produce them.

http://wow.gamepedia.com/Darrowshire_Spirit
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Cannibal_Ghoul
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Gibbering_Ghoul
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Lurid
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Questefenders_of_Darrowshire
http://wow.gamepedia.com/Diseased_Flayer

[Deleted]

Yeah, like them begging trapped as undead and after their physical form was destroyed they were released. You know, exactly what ghouls are.

I obviously meant, if those ghouls weren't different than your typical ghouls. Those ghouls from the quest are called Cannibal ghouls and were part of the story of darrowshire.

[Arrashi]

I obviously meant, if those ghouls weren't different than your typical ghouls. Those ghouls from the quest are called Cannibal ghouls and were part of the story of darrowshire.

Oh yes, cannibal ghouls. Because regular ghouls eat....what was that ? I really forgot what is that thing that ghouls eat ?
What could it be ?
Maybe berries ?
Perhaps nuts ?
Perhaps they eat in taco bell ?
Or maybe in pizzahut ?
Perhaps they like tofu ?
Or dig salads ?

Or perhaps they eat human meat and corpses like ghouls do in every single setting.

[Combatbutler]

I obviously meant, if those ghouls weren't different than your typical ghouls. Those ghouls from the quest are called Cannibal ghouls and were part of the story of darrowshire.

It is nowhere mentioned that dk ghouls are different and since the ebon blade itself openly admits using the same methods as the scourge, why should they be?

[Arrashi]

It is nowhere mentioned that dk ghouls are different and since the ebon blade itself openly admits using the same methods as the scourge, why should they be?

Maybe they are vegan ghouls ?

[Combatbutler]

Maybe they are vegan ghouls ?

Made out of plant souls, druids will throw a hissy fit.

[Gemini Soul]

Darion was your first champion/follower.

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The player is trying to raise Tirion , thats why the light rises up to defend his body.

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You really have some kind of a vendetta against the ebon blade , don't you?

No, the first champion/follower is Nazgrim and Thassarian.

[Deleted]

No, the first champion/follower is Nazgrim and Thassarian.

I remember seeing Darion early into the alpha , but I might be wrong. On that note , I just found something very interesting. Darion as a combat ally has the ability to summon the 4 horsemen. http://legion.wowhead.com/champion=855#abilities

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Oh yes, cannibal ghouls. Because regular ghouls eat....what was that ? I really forgot what is that thing that ghouls eat ?
What could it be ?
Maybe berries ?
Perhaps nuts ?
Perhaps they eat in taco bell ?
Or maybe in pizzahut ?
Perhaps they like tofu ?
Or dig salads ?

Or perhaps they eat human meat and corpses like ghouls do in every single setting.

I simply pointed out how they are called in game. Had nothing to do with what they eat, but sure lets laugh it all up .

[Gemini Soul]

I remember seeing Darion early into the alpha , but I might be wrong. On that note , I just found something very interesting. Darion as a combat ally has the ability to summon the 4 horsemen. http://legion.wowhead.com/champion=855#abilities

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I simply pointed out how they are called in game. Had nothing to do with what they eat, but sure lets laugh it all up .

You also get him at 110, hes the final horseman