California surpasses France as world's 6th largest economy

[alexw]

Your view sounds fantastic, when can we get rid of the NAACP and all like-minded programs? After all, you wouldn't want to be a hypocrite.

Please. You are posting xenophobic garbage (though I'm not in the least bit surprised that its coming from you). People have multiple different loyalties all at the same time. Unless you have EVIDENCE to suggest that those loyalties conflict then no you don't have a reason to question group loyalties vis a vis loyalty to America. Or should we set up watch lists and get the FBI to hound anyone who is a member of the NRA? After all they are a member of a group and that must mean they have ulterior motives harmful to America. But no I'm not a paranoid right-winger so I don't think that.......

[PC2]

Please. You are posting xenophobic garbage (though I'm not in the least bit surprised that its coming from you). People have multiple different loyalties all at the same time. Unless you have EVIDENCE to suggest that those loyalties conflict then no you don't have a reason to question group loyalties vis a vis loyalty to America. Or should we set up watch lists and get the FBI to hound anyone who is a member of the NRA? After all they are a member of a group and that must mean they have ulterior motives harmful to America. But no I'm not a paranoid right-winger so I don't think that.......

You're focusing on the person, you're not attacking my point.

Either race or color are valid topics to analyze or they are not. But you cant silence the topic then keep organizations with the sole purpose of assisting people based on color. Either it can be factored into civilizational decision making or it can't be. You can't have it both ways.

[artemishunter1]

CA won’t be leaving the US anytime soon. Water is a problem. San Diego area received 62% of its water from Colorado River. The same with electrical power. CA power plants only have the capacity to provide 62% of the state power demand.

Most of the second generation latinos in CA have little to no loyalties to Mexico. Compared to the past, a very low percentage of second-generation Mexican-Americans list Spanish as their dominate language. According to a 2014 Pew Research Center survey, just 6 percent of second generation Mexican-Americans stated Spanish was their dominate language. Also, 54 percent stated they were bilingual and 39 percent offered that they were English-dominant. When it came to third generation, just 1 percent claimed to be Spanish-dominant, 29 percent bilingual and a hefty 70 percent stated that they were English-dominate.

I am not sure how accurate the statistic are, but According to Department of Education, Hispanics are EPICLY failing at English. And schools in California are taught subjects in Spanish depending on their population. They are not assimilating into American Culture, which won't be bad if they were much more dispersed. Its like a micronation with its own culture, its people who feel no loyalty to the U.S. as a whole.

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Please. You are posting xenophobic garbage (though I'm not in the least bit surprised that its coming from you). People have multiple different loyalties all at the same time. Unless you have EVIDENCE to suggest that those loyalties conflict then no you don't have a reason to question group loyalties vis a vis loyalty to America. Or should we set up watch lists and get the FBI to hound anyone who is a member of the NRA? After all they are a member of a group and that must mean they have ulterior motives harmful to America. But no I'm not a paranoid right-winger so I don't think that.......

You can not serve two masters at the same time.

[Rasulis]

I am not sure how accurate the statistic are, but According to Department of Education, Hispanics are EPICLY failing at English. And schools in California are taught subjects in Spanish depending on their population. They are not assimilating into American Culture, which won't be bad if they were much more dispersed. Its like a micronation with its own culture, its people who feel no loyalty to the U.S. as a whole.

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You can not serve two masters at the same time.

If what you said is true, then CA which has the largest hispanic population (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ino_population) should be ranked the worst in term of high school education. As you can see from this http://www.usnews.com/education/best...states-compare, that is not the case.

[GennGreymane]

You can not serve two masters at the same time.

Yes you can

[Bushtuckrman]

France is a third world nation?

Suck it France!

Looks pretty 3rd world to me, and this is from 2 years ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdmQ9PN57l4

[Rasulis]

Looks pretty 3rd world to me, and this is from 2 years ago...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdmQ9PN57l4

France has Tour de France. Still the coolest race ever.

[Orange Joe]

Home to Hollyweird and Silicon Valley, the largest living thing on Earth and the tallest, probably the home to the oldest living thing too.







http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/17/calif...t-economy.html

REUTERS California is now the sixth largest economy in the world, surpassing France thanks to a robust state economy and the strength of the U.S. dollar.

California was the world's eighth-largest economy as of last year, according to Irena Asmundson, chief economist of the California Department of Finance.

"California did exceptionally well in 2015," said Asmundson. "Lots of sectors did well."

California is home to diverse strong economies, including Silicon Valley and Hollywood. Manufacturing has performed well, as has the agriculture sector, despite a severe drought, said Asmundson.

The nation's most populous state has outpaced the rest of the U.S. on job growth. Its gross state product was $2.46 trillion, with 4.1 percent of state growth this year in real terms, according to the state's finance department.

Nationally, gross domestic product grew by 2.4 percent in 2015. Growth slowed to 0.8 percent in the first quarter of 2016.

Wait, isn't cali suppose to be failing because of their minimum wage increase?

[PC2]

Yes you can

As long as they don't break the law and pay taxes to the US that's what matters.

[GennGreymane]

As long as they don't break the law and pay taxes to the US that's what matters.

And so long as the masters do not conflict with one another. You can be a member of a lawful organization and a citizen of the US

or in the case that came to my mind. You can work for multiple people.

[PC2]

Wait, isn't cali suppose to be failing because of their minimum wage increase?

It won't be $15 til 2022. Plenty of time to adjust to it smoothly.

[Orange Joe]

It won't be $15 til 2022. Plenty of time to adjust to it smoothly.

Actually it went to $10 an hour Jan 1st, and then another $1 on Jan 1st of the next 5 years. So it's already started increasing. Shouldn't that make it also start failing?

[PC2]

Actually it went to $10 an hour Jan 1st, and then another $1 on Jan 1st of the next 5 years. So it's already started increasing. Shouldn't that make it also start failing?

That is a difficult question. Even the best economic experts argue about what amount represents the optimal min wage. Personally I think we might be within a couple dollars of it and it wont be a big deal. Though, the farther you get from the equilibrium wage the more supply/demand problems can occur.

[Ripster42]

That is a difficult question. Even the best economic experts argue about what amount represents the optimal min wage. Personally I think we might be within a couple dollars of it and it wont be a big deal. Though, the farther you get from the equilibrium wage the more supply/demand problems can occur.

It's pretty hard to argue that we're at a true equilibrium wage when we've had wage fixing scandals like this driving down wages for decades.

Edit: to be clear, I fully accept that regular increases to the minimum wage act to counter-act this effect, but as wages haven't been increasing as fast as american productivity, it leads one to believe that the wage increases have not fully counteracted that or other effects.

[Rasulis]

Actually it went to $10 an hour Jan 1st, and then another $1 on Jan 1st of the next 5 years. So it's already started increasing. Shouldn't that make it also start failing?

Only 1.3% of CA hourly workers make minimum wage or less. Lowest in the US.

[RickJamesLich]

It's trash because of the widening inequality, not the overall economic status.

And even the overall economic outlook is poor because of said inequality. Also, comparing the US to 3rd world nations don't do your arguments any good.

We all know France is a dump, but damn dude, you're just being mean with this one.

[Nadiru]

Only 1.3% of CA hourly workers make minimum wage or less. Lowest in the US.

A good thing since the cost of living in many Californian population centers are higher than the national average. Some...exceptionally so.

[Emjay18]

Wait, isn't cali suppose to be failing because of their minimum wage increase?

It's an enourmous beacon that Brownback-esque states, and right-wing libertarian economics, are total failures and unsustainable, while California is liberal mecca in their own words, and thriving right along.

It's proof that particular worldviews are bunk and incorrect, and will be summarily ignored completely.

[PC2]

It's an enourmous beacon that Brownback-esque states, and right-wing libertarian economics, are total failures and unsustainable, while California is liberal mecca in their own words, and thriving right along.

It's proof that particular worldviews are bunk and incorrect, and will be summarily ignored completely.

CA is right wing and pro-industry compared to most of Europe. The "liberal Mecca" is mostly a stereotype.

[Deleted]

is this the official anthem of California?