Poll: Are you satisfied with the current iteration of Ret in the Legion beta?

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    This is part of the problem. Most people think Ashbringer will fix any issues we have or change rotations up. The thing is, that it doesn't. Even maxed out it doesn't do much except increase some dps numbers.
    More or less true. Having one of the minor traits do a rotational fix would AT LEAST HELP SOMEWHAT. It's inexcusable it's not working before the Ashbringer but it would still help. I know this is controversial but I still prefer old WoD then new(Minus FIres of Justice I need that shit).


    Also Mobility: PURSUIT OF JUSTICE COME ON. WE HAD THAT SINCE LIKE WRATH
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  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Storm the Sorrow View Post
    No it doesn't.

    It's awful. Unpolished. Slow - literally.
    Painful to play.
    Literally can't be compared to WoD Ret .
    Afterall, you can't compare inferior to superior.
    It was a joke.....I quoted you say it wasn't feeling like Retribution and I was making a joke of what kind of spec it is currently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laurcus View Post
    Try the AoE build, especially in dungeons. It might surprise you. Conc-Zeal-DH-DP.
    I have been, it's still terrible. Granted I'm 105 atm, but still we have access to all the talents.

  3. #183
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    It was a joke.....I quoted you say it wasn't feeling like Retribution and I was making a joke of what kind of spec it is currently.
    I know.
    My sense of humor is strangely malfunctioning when speaking about Ret issues.

  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    It was a joke.....I quoted you say it wasn't feeling like Retribution and I was making a joke of what kind of spec it is currently.



    I have been, it's still terrible. Granted I'm 105 atm, but still we have access to all the talents.
    Man, I wish I had beta! I'm talking PTR, which will probably end up a lot different than Legion. At 742 ilvl it feels pretty good, especially on 3+ targets. The little bit of beta I played on a friend's account, the only way I found to kill stuff quickly while leveling was to use Justicar's Vengeance on stunned targets. I stacked as much crit as I could and hoped for the magic one shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laurcus View Post
    Man, I wish I had beta! I'm talking PTR, which will probably end up a lot different than Legion. At 742 ilvl it feels pretty good, especially on 3+ targets. The little bit of beta I played on a friend's account, the only way I found to kill stuff quickly while leveling was to use Justicar's Vengeance on stunned targets. I stacked as much crit as I could and hoped for the magic one shot.
    Beta got bad the second PTR went up(In terms of stability). For all the crap I've given Blizzard these past few months. The content itself is pretty great. Class design leaves much to be desired thoughg.
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    Was playing around with AoE (Consecretion, Zeal/Greater Judgment, Divine Hammer, Crusade) and with a good glob of Haste it's really fun, numbers flying everywhere.

  7. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurcus View Post
    Man, I wish I had beta! I'm talking PTR, which will probably end up a lot different than Legion. At 742 ilvl it feels pretty good, especially on 3+ targets. The little bit of beta I played on a friend's account, the only way I found to kill stuff quickly while leveling was to use Justicar's Vengeance on stunned targets. I stacked as much crit as I could and hoped for the magic one shot.
    If it makes you feel better, I don't have it either. It's just whenever I can steal my roomates pc when he's gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by wowaccounttom View Post
    100+ ashbringers running around just looks bad
    This could be so easily fixed at Blizzard's end: just tell the game to load a random appropriate weapon for all other paladins (etc) client-side, instead of showing the Ashbringer.

    = + =

    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    Also Mobility: PURSUIT OF JUSTICE COME ON. WE HAD THAT SINCE LIKE WRATH
    Since vanilla in fact.

    Is Legion the first time Ret can't spec into a passive movement speed increase? Might be...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teleros View Post
    This could be so easily fixed at Blizzard's end: just tell the game to load a random appropriate weapon for all other paladins (etc) client-side, instead of showing the Ashbringer.

    = + =


    Since vanilla in fact.

    Is Legion the first time Ret can't spec into a passive movement speed increase? Might be...
    But Unholy for some reason is allowed to have theirs.

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    I prefer it to the WoD version. So yes.

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    Voted no with a caveat; While I don't mind this new Judgement mechanic (only major complaint rotationally is that it feels a bit lacking, hollow even) my major concern is the dps tuning associated with a major toxic mechanic in GBoM. If GBoM is either removed or reworked to something more interesting then I wouldn't minding changing my vote, but its got to go as it stands atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TipTopPoet View Post
    I prefer it to the WoD version. So yes.
    My opinion. I still dislike retribution, but from what I saw, it's more... well, digestible than WoD.
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    I like single target. A lot actually. Feels nice.

    Cleave and AoE on the other hand feels absolutely awful.

    Mobility feels terrible. Pursuit of Justice was a staple ever since BC. Seal of Light's a piddly attempt at bringing it back but you have to pick it vs. other stuff(and...lower bubble cd on a mobility tree? Wat).

    Defense and sustain feels absolutely terrible compared to before though. :<
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    I just miss Hammer of Wrath. So much.

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    I prefer it, I think its better than the WoD paladin, I didnt like WoD ret long term, it just became boring, the new gameplay is way more simple but with a bit of work and some tweaking they can make the spec a lot of fun to play, also the new animations are so cool!

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    Nay. Late MoP's haste stacking iteration with the tier 16 4 set bonus was the most fun for me, WoD made haste stacking harder and thus the spec became dull again, legion has removed the divine storm proc and dulled the class down to its base rotation. Only the order of our rotation has changed slightly.

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    And no extra finisher/hopo generator or something during burn phase. gawd ima miss my customed weakaura.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storm the Sorrow View Post
    Afterall, you can't compare inferior to superior.
    Sure you can because if you couldn't then you would literally have no way to label either inferior or superior because they're entirely relative terms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shimerra View Post
    Sure you can because if you couldn't then you would literally have no way to label either inferior or superior because they're entirely relative terms.
    It's Storm. He's trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shimerra View Post
    Sure you can because if you couldn't then you would literally have no way to label either inferior or superior because they're entirely relative terms.
    Sure you can determine honey is sweeter than shit, but that's about it as far as comparing goes.


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    It's Storm. He's trolling.
    It's Storm. He's not.

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