BREXIT - leave or remain?

[Floopa]

When is it happening? The announcement?

around 04:00 BST should give an indication of which campaign is likely to win. 05:00 BST will likely show which side wins.

[Shadowmelded]

So having only occasionally checked on this whole thing since months ago, I just checked and it looks like it's 51% remain.

Since this is just a poll of the populace and not a hard vote, I was led to believe from many sources that even a minor win for leave would not be enough to bring about drastic change, since the numbers for remain and leave have been bouncing back and forth between 45% and 55% for awhile now depending on how salty the Brits are about Muslims that day.

Can anyone tell me what (they think) this means? Silly answers that will make me laugh out loud like "We're going to be taken over by mulsims!!!!!111one" are welcome as well.

Anything up to 52.5% for Leave will be countered by a heavy Remain vote in Scotland (the most hilarious outcome and one I'm hoping to see). Anything above that will likely be considered valid. They can't pull off the "not enough people voted, therefor the referendum result is invalid" like they did in Scotland in the 70s since turnout is apparently really high.

Not many people know that EEC/EU institutions became so incensed by the spreading of false stories and myths about it that in the early 1990s, they setup a website listing all the myths reported in mainstream media and debunking or verifying them.

http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/...ths-a-z-index/

The Economist magazine trawled through that and came up with a summary of the top "offenders":

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Even the BBC is there and not at the bottom either!

Really wish this had gotten more attention during the campaign.

What I'm more interested in is that will the Scots stay in the UK if Brits leave the EU?

Probably not but it's too soon to say. Once the results are in it'll be clearer although some polls held previously suggest that there would be a majority in favour of another Independence referendum in the event of a Brexit.

[Mehrunes]

What actually worries me is all those far-right xenophobic nationalist lie-spreading scum parties on the rise everywhere. And the people following them.

Luckily they will achieve fuck all like they always do and the voting pendulum will swing back.

[klogaroth]

What has it got to do with Muslims?

Simultaneous nothing and everything.

I've seen a lot of people moaning about 3rd generation British-Pakistanis and using that as their reasoning for voting leave. Stories like "I saw a Muslim woman and she didn't even speak English!"

Now we know that has the square root of fuck all to do with the EU, but they don't seem to.

[Floopa]

i imagine:

55/45 in england want to leave
50/50 in wales
40/60 in scotland
50/50 in NI

and it's very likely scotland swings it to remain, which is gross considering they're all inconsiderate vultures

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10 Minutes to Save the World!

[klogaroth]

50/50 in NI

I'm not 100%, but I think NI will favour remain.

They are, after all, the only part of the UK with a land border with an EU nation. A land border that I gather many people are quite keen on crossing freely.

[Cthulhu 2020]

What has it got to do with Muslims?

I dunno, I just hear some people want to leave because the EU is forcing Muslim immigration down UK's throats or something. I'm honestly asking because I'm coming at this only knowing what I hear from people, and haven't watched that many vids on it. Been too busy with work lately and my own country's politics.

[Afrospinach]

What I'm more interested in is that will the Scots stay in the UK if Brits leave the EU?

Well as someone pointed out, they knew this vote was coming when they had their referendum so it should not make a difference.

[Shadowmelded]

I'm not 100%, but I think NI will favour remain.

They are, after all, the only part of the UK with a land border with an EU nation. A land border that I gather many people are quite keen on crossing freely.

They also get a lot of structural funding.

Well as someone pointed out, they knew this vote was coming when they had their referendum so it should not make a difference.

At the time of the Independence referendum there was no way of knowing that the Tory's would get a majority. The "Better Together" campaign repeatedly said that the only way to safeguard our position in the EU was to vote "No".

[Floopa]

I'm not 100%, but I think NI will favour remain.

They are, after all, the only part of the UK with a land border with an EU nation. A land border that I gather many people are quite keen on crossing freely.

true, it's probably a remain 'victory' in wales, scotland and NI (wales being least likely for remain victory). i think england is pro-leave.

that said, remain is still ahead of leave (48/46 from FT, 51/49 from telegraph)

[Kalis]

I dunno, I just hear some people want to leave because the EU is forcing Muslim immigration down UK's throats or something. I'm honestly asking because I'm coming at this only knowing what I hear from people, and haven't watched that many vids on it. Been too busy with work lately and my own country's politics.

It has nothing to do with Muslims, the majority of our Muslims are Pakistani and due to the Commonwealth.

It is the Poles people do not like, coming over here and fixing the shit we broke.

[Beazy]

When will the results be in guys?

I read that they made exit polling illegal because pople were getting rambunctious with eachother over this vote.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

I'm not 100%, but I think NI will favour remain.

They are, after all, the only part of the UK with a land border with an EU nation. A land border that I gather many people are quite keen on crossing freely.

In particular, a land border that has been critical in establishing peace in Ireland.

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When will the results be in guys?

I read that they made exit polling illegal because pople were getting rambunctious with eachother over this vote.

Officlal annoucement will be 8 am tomorrow morning IIRC.

[Kallisto]

Boris may have the appearance of a bumbling fool, sometimes he even is a bumbling fool, but he knows about policy, so he is not comparable to Trump.

I dunno.

Similarities
Both with irrationally crazy blonde hair.
Both Bumbling
Both stutter over words
Both can and have insulted female gender at certain points
Both born in New York.

Differences

Though Borris can be likeable.
Borris has political smarts.
As far as I am aware Borris hasn't been forced to bankrupt businesses multiple times
Borris has been elected into political office before.

[Floopa]

When will the results be in guys?

I read that they made exit polling illegal because pople were getting rambunctious with eachother over this vote.

we'll likely know the result by 04-05:00 BST

[Deleted]

Anyone that has not voted yet needs to start sprinting.

[Kalis]

I dunno.

Similarities
Both with irrationally crazy blonde hair.
Both Bumbling
Both stutter over words
Both can and have insulted female gender at certain points
Both born in New York.

Differences

Though Borris can be likeable.
Borris has political smarts.
As far as I am aware Borris hasn't been forced to bankrupt businesses multiple times
Borris has been elected into political office before.

Boris does not discriminate, he insults everyone, including Boris.

[klogaroth]

In particular, a land border that has been critical in establishing peace in Ireland.

Yeah, I've mentioned the problems that brexit has for the Good Friday agreement around here before.

As a guide to how much we don't want to fuck up the things that came about as the result of the peace process....

Did you know that child support law has special sections related to the Irish peace process? That is how detailed the process was. It touches every aspect of the law. And if we leave, we risk fucking up the best thing to come out of Blair's Labour. I'd rather not see the entirety of those years be a complete waste.

[Deleted]

I dunno.

Similarities
Both with irrationally crazy blonde hair.
Both Bumbling
Both stutter over words
Both can and have insulted female gender at certain points
Both born in New York.

Differences

Though Borris can be likeable.
Borris has political smarts.
As far as I am aware Borris hasn't been forced to bankrupt businesses multiple times
Borris has been elected into political office before.

I think of it like Twins. Boris is Schwarzenegger and Trump is DeVito