Gamergate - OP updated 27 October

[erthwjim]

Can't help but feel you're trying to argue over a turn of phrase here. If you can't enjoy PoE because you're gender locked then sure thing. I hope one day this isn't an issue in the gaming community and everyone gets to play games how they want to. /shrug

I don't think you're understanding him for some reason, or maybe I'm not understanding you. But it sounds like POE only allows certain classes based on gender, Elim is not saying which gender and class, but for instance if I cannot play a female magic user combo, I might not enjoy the game as much. If I'm stuck only using a male magic user, it kind of sucks, because my prefered player is the female sorcerer/wizard/etc. It won't prevent me from playing the game completely as I'm not completely stuck to one specific gender and class, but I can understand why some might be. And for me it has nothing to do with the avatar, and everything to do with the type of lore and world I want to create for myself in most rpgs and mmos. But in this I'm speaking of mmos and rpgs, where you pretty much can customize the character to your hearts content.

Games like Zelda are a different story, as you don't have as much control over the player's lore. I can understand the desire to have a female lead in these games, but I don't see why people would suddenly boycott the game for it not having a female lead, especially if they've played the games in the past. So you were perfectly ok with male link for the last X amount of games, but suddenly you're going to boycott the game because they're keeping to the same lore (directed at the boycotters)? I also don't think it should be criticized for the extent it has. Criticism is fine, but people are acting like this is the most regressive thing in the world and that it just shows how game developers and gamers are out of touch with the current year. And finally in regards to the reply that was made by the Nintendo person, perhaps they weren't prepared for the question so the answer was not thought out very well and perhaps it was answered by someone who doesn't have English as their first language, so the words chosen did not convey things in the right manner. But even for that I don't think people should get as upset as they have over it.

[Misjudged Maaanwell]

This whole Zelda debate is dumb an can easily be summed up as. They want a female lead? Zelda. You have a 7 years time period in Ocarina of time that Link was M.I.A. in Light Temple.
Points of Plays
-The Escape from Ganon
-Realization of Triforce
-Training to become Shiek
-Let me Lightbeam someone who isn't Ganon
-random dungeons

Soft thought, or otherwise just make a game were Zelda an Link act separately in story til final boss with random meet ups in between.

[barackopala]

But if gender is fluid and a social construct then link can be a female and people are misgendering her, or him, or xir, or xer, or whatever the fuck it wants to be, it's link C:.

[unholytestament]

@Netscape if I had more notice I might have driven out to your panel. But I watched the video of your last one and when MMO-C came up and the first response was about how overbearing the GenOT mods are my sides went into orbit.

Seems that's all MMO-C is known for outside of WoW news, as I've seen similar sentiment on 8chan, Voat and KiA.

[barackopala]

This gamergate shit still going on?

I dont know, are the journos still being shit? are gamers dead now or they keep dying and dying and dying?

[Beazy]

Looks like Nintendo is sick of the SJW bullshit too. ShuffleGate has made the blue haired whore from a few years ago trigger really hard on twitter. Couldn't be more beautiful.

[unholytestament]

Looks like Nintendo is sick of the SJW bullshit too. ShuffleGate has made the blue haired whore from a few years ago trigger really hard on twitter. Couldn't be more beautiful.

Except I don't think that reference had anything to do with SJW bullshit. It seems to be a Watergate reference.

[Orange Joe]

Except I don't think that reference had anything to do with SJW bullshit. It seems to be a Watergate reference.

What did watergate have to do with 5 guys?


Want to note I find it funny that Nintendo put it in the game.

[Edge-]

What did watergate have to do with 5 guys?

Want to note I find it funny that Nintendo put it in the game.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...Watergate-Joke

Two different jokes.

[Orange Joe]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...Watergate-Joke

Two different jokes.

Ah. Should know better than to take a single screenshot at 100% truth lol.

[Tech614]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...Watergate-Joke

Two different jokes.

Meanwhile even after the explanation is out her and her white knights still seem to think it's about them.

Like Japanese Nintendo employees at IS honestly gives a shit about her or even knows who she is. Game probably been in development/writing long before the internet even knew who the fuck she was as IS employees where talking about it as far back as 2014.

[Sorrior]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...Watergate-Joke

Two different jokes.

I did notice them use the term hate campaign though..Seriously

[KrazyK923]

Ah gotta love the ole "online hate campaign" bullshit.

I guess ZQ needed another ten seconds in the spotlight again.

[erthwjim]

Supposedly these are some of the missing screenshots, which if these were known about and are actually real, goes to show even more how much she wanted to skew things and get attention.

https://twitter.com/klara_sjo/status/745769963995152385

Edit: Before I was leaning towards these possibly being fake, but now looking at other screenshots that have popped up, these very well could be fake.

[Templar 331]

Lol, maybe Nintendo will start to see the shit we've had thrown at us now.

[Saleri]

The sad thing of it all is that weirdo feminists will still try to spin this as Nintendo siding with them, even though Big N showed them the middle finger when they fired Alison Rapp.

Basically, it's all a small fowards and two back...

[unholytestament]

The sad thing of it all is that weirdo feminists will still try to spin this as Nintendo siding with them, even though Big N showed them the middle finger when they fired Alison Rapp.

Basically, it's all a small fowards and two back...

Again, that didn't have anything to do with social justice/feminism. She was fired because she had a second job which violated Nintendo's policies.

[Saleri]

Again, that didn't have anything to do with social justice/feminism. She was fired because she had a second job which violated Nintendo's policies.

What I'm saying is that feminists started pestering Nintendo because of that choice, but they didn't backpedal and stood up against them. Nintendo is learning, just give them time.

[dope_danny]

Again, that didn't have anything to do with social justice/feminism. She was fired because she had a second job which violated Nintendo's policies.

Well what company wants an escort rated 2/5 representing them.

Reggie demands "4/5, no butterfaces or uggos"

[unholytestament]

What I'm saying is that feminists started pestering Nintendo because of that choice, but they didn't backpedal and stood up against them. Nintendo is learning, just give them time.

What I'm saying is that people need to stop attributing actions to sides. The "us vs them" mentality is poisonous regardless of who uses it. Nintendo took no sides. Nintendo's only concern was Nintendo.