BREXIT - leave or remain?

[Independent voter]

If the EU were just one big free trade zone, that and NATO that would be enough for a few decades. EU tried to go too far too fast.

[Deleted]

Its refreshing to see that Scotland has common sense. At this point whatever Britain recieves they deserve it.

Yeah the 13 million people who voted Remain so far "deserve it".

[Thepersona]

i just saw on twitter a infographic detailing preferences on voting by age. as i assumed, old people are screwing up the younger generations (older people voted in majority for leave)

[Theodarzna]

But they didn't expect people to be this god damn stupid.

A democracy should never allow something this crazy to be allowed. It is about intelligent people still having control over the stupid. Even if it is 1000 stupid people and 5 intelligent.

How can people trust those "intelligent people," to both be impartial, and to have the interests of citizens and not themselves in mind?

[Spectral]

I think this is single stupidest thing I read today. Or even this week.

This tells me that you don't read the Washington Post enough. You probably don't know how many things are racist just yet!

[Deleted]

Putin wins. Within 6 months other countries will frexit, grexit, spexit... and all that will be left are the leech countries.

I doubt it'll happen that fast, but I do hope that in time france/italy/spain/holland/denmark, probably even finland wants out, will leave. History always repeats... Germany isnt meant to lead anything or they will destroy it. Margaret Thatcher saw it before anyone else when she opposed the reunification.

[Deleted]

You mean the countries that do everything Germany tells them to.
It's a common misunderstanding.

You could not PAY me to live in Northern Ireland right now, either. Especially on the 100th Anniversary of the Troubles...

It's not Germany's fault that it's the only nation having the balls to do anything tbqh. The UK and France could have both taken some sort of leadership or guidance in the EU, but nobody wanted to take up any responsibility. It's sad when even France (the one who surrenders always) is more prone to action than the UK.

[Avainer]

Maybe? Or Holland, Hungary, France? Lots of Dominoes around.

hungary? no way, who do u think Orbán would blame if we would be out of the EU ?

[Flutterguy]

So I may very well see the rise and fall of the EU in my lifetime. Amazing.

[Spectral]

i just saw on twitter a infographic detailing preferences on voting by age. as i assumed, old people are screwing up the younger generations (older people voted in majority for leave)

We should probably take their votes away. Those people don't how to vote anyway.

[Mace]

If I seem schizophrenic, it's because I don't much care about Brexit on the object level, but am simultaneously amused by people discovering that democracy isn't the bestest ever and other people that are deeply upset by the idea of a nation being independent.

we dont' force people to do something we want . Just because they disagree with our view that we know what is best for them, they have a right to say no, and we should respect their decision, not find clever ways to force them or trick them into doing what we want . Which also includes preventing htem from deciding if this is how they want to be govermed.

Some people believe that it is their right to tell people what to do, and that people must listen to them because they've figured it all out. But it's the people's choice to decide whether they agree or not, and if they don't agree, we don't force them.

[Kalis]

I wasn't aware Britain stood for making objectively bad decisions in the name of some vague and abstract 'moral right'.

When you reach puberty you will realise that you do not get everything you want in life.

[Alexeht]

This tells me that you don't read the Washington Post enough. You probably don't know how many things are racist just yet!

I know what is not racist tho - calling white people crackers.

[Deleted]

Leave still sitting at 51.7%, 47 results left to go.

[Deleted]

Is a powerful russia bad?

What would be beneficial of a powerful Russia?

[Thepersona]

How can people trust those "intelligent people," to both be impartial, and to have the interests of citizens and not themselves in mind?

intelligent people tend to be impartial, see the short and long term losses and gains and see the interest of everyone (including them)
stupid people lack the thought procesess to do that

[Bollocks]

What would be beneficial of a powerful Russia?

Our country is buying helicopters from Russia, so theres that.

[Flutterguy]

Does this mean WoW subs will be cheaper now for the Brits?

[Aberrict]

https://twitter.com/wilkinson_laura

Scotland's interests must be protected, we are looking at all options," SNP's @FionaHyslop tells @BBCScotlandNews

If the UK has made a decision against the will of the Scottish people, there will be "consequences" says Fiona Hyslop #EURef

The Scottish secession talk has began already.

[Theodarzna]

What would be beneficial of a powerful Russia?

Well I mean people here are discussing the need to nix democracy and install a "benevolent dictatorship," something like a Politburo I am guessing, so what would be the substantial difference?