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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    That depends on how strong other countries are.
    If others are parasites, dead weight, anchors dragging you down...then yeah. A country could be made stronger for ridding itself of them.

    Looking at Scotland..and the likelihood of an independent referendum; .Currency will need to be made an issue.
    The Scots will either want to keep the same deal that the UK had, or...they'll have to eat the euro.

    That might seem a good prospect in this chaotic moment considering where the pound is, but once it gets stable...
    You are never stronger on your own in this global market. You are literally telling me smaller is bigger, that's the claim you're making to put it really simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klatar View Post
    Cameron planted the seed because of political interests. He was sure that the UK people wouldnt be suicidal.

    He was wrong. And he knows it.
    Then that was bad politics on his behalf for even suggesting it, And these are the people that apparently manage our country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    The UK must do quite a lot to offset the damages it just accumulated.
    The have just proven to be a threat to the US, not an ally.
    The general populace in the USA, are more likely to cheer for the UK.. Hell the general population from Countries like Canada are cheering for the UK. General human population have no economical goals in mind, not that they should. Display of general population not bowing down to elite doomsaying, is literally the most populous thing you can think of.

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    Its the right time to kick Greece out of the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotutha View Post
    The EU wont collapse. The UK leaving is like amputating a rotting limb. Short term painful, but long term not having the rot spread outweighs this.
    The EU will be fine. The UK will eventually also be fine. The sooner the UK is out. The sooner recovery can begin.
    We just need to make sure it happens soon and they do not get the chance to try for ransom again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Well to be perfectly fair, he's not an elected official right? So he has no actual authority to follow through on any of the promises that he made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Is it really bread today considering the needed trade relations the UK has with the EU? Give me one example of something that will improve since i can't think of anything.
    We can stop Eastern Europeans out competing our native trade skills. Think that's pretty much the entire UKIP platform, Johnny Foreigner is working longer, harder and cheaper than you and we can stop it for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Propheteu View Post
    You do know whats happening politically in other eu countries right now right ? The question will go from Uk exit to will the eu survive as we know it when the anti eu sentiment is even stronger in alot of other countries compared the the uk and we all know what the uk just did didnt we. The next couple of years is going to be a fekking mess not just from the leave but a very isolated german as from the latest polls the french national front is lead has increase and looks likely to take control.
    This sentiment has always been there, the wanted chain reaction will not take place for many reasons. One of them is the brits took that gamble and even the most stubborn of fools will now simply wait and see.

    I have no idea where and with what you are even connecting FN with germany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macaquerie View Post
    Well to be perfectly fair, he's not an elected official right? So he has no actual authority to follow through on any of the promises that he made.
    Its still manipulating the vote with something he couldn't keep in the first place. Dumb people are easily persuaded by lies even told by those not in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killyox View Post
    Back with you to being naughty Succubus!
    Better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macaquerie View Post
    Well to be perfectly fair, he's not an elected official right? So he has no actual authority to follow through on any of the promises that he made.
    We had a kajillion (trust me I counted) different Leave campaigns, only one of which was the "official" one. Farage is considered so toxic he wasn't allowed within a million miles of Official Leave and it was they who may have kinda sorta promised that we would plow an additional 350 million back into the NHS every week if we left the EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    You are never stronger on your own in this global market. You are literally telling me smaller is bigger, that's the claim you're making to put it really simple.
    Depends on the size of the market.
    Taking the UK out of play, then you take their money out as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    We can stop Eastern Europeans out competing our native trade skills. Think that's pretty much the entire UKIP platform, Johnny Foreigner is working longer, harder and cheaper than you and we can stop it for you.
    House prices will go up, product prices will go up. Those products will continue to be made abroad and imported in unless you put up a trade block but hopefully i don't have to explain to you why thinking you can be fully self sustainable.

    The idea that if you remove foreign workers it would solve a lot of issues is simply wrong, those issues will continue to exist since they created the need and market for such foreigner workers not the otherway around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macaquerie View Post
    Well to be perfectly fair, he's not an elected official right? So he has no actual authority to follow through on any of the promises that he made.
    So he wasn't in a position to make the promises... Nor are Gove or Boris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ouch View Post
    Display of general population not bowing down to elite doomsaying, is literally the most populous thing you can think of.

    This right here, It went on for far too long and the people fought back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post
    After the first world war your greed created Hitler...
    The greed and depravity of your country caused your grandparent's generation to ally themselves with Hitler.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    The world economy cannot afford to let the UK continue to run this blackmail scheme forever.
    It has to stop, the sooner the better for everyone.
    It is easy to stop - the UK gets a deal they like, the EU gets one they like, job done. That is what will happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Is it really bread today considering the needed trade relations the UK has with the EU? Give me one example of something that will improve since i can't think of anything.
    They are not going to get bread today. Farage is a con man, it is what people have been saying for years, but accusing anyone that listened to him of racism failed miserably as a tactic, so he got to play the victim.

    The mainstream UK parties and EU needed to deal with what he was peddling, which meant limiting EU immigration to a slower pace, but that was a no-no, so his power spread and now the worldwide economy is going tits up. All because we let a chancer exploit a weakness that we could have dealt with if we had been more flexible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolsteak View Post
    The border checks at Calais are based on bilateral deals, Not the EU membership
    If by bilateral agreements you mean them refusing to apply for asylum by the "first country you arrive in within the Shengen area" principle then you're absolutely right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Depends on the size of the market.
    Taking the UK out of play, then you take their money out as well.
    No it doesn't the EU is still bigger than the UK. I really can't grasp why this is so hard to understand unless your market is smaller which it is significantly you are always weaker, no if's buts or ands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PassingBy View Post
    Others have followed, and are following.
    All OEMs cut corners. In case of VW at least no one was killed because of that, unlike in case of GM for example.

    All the difference is that with GM the US government will protect it, and with VW the German government was the first to grab a pitchfork and start a witchhunt.
    Too scared to have own opinion, too scared to protect what's important for the country.

    Too scared to even demand an apology for being spied at.
    They are protecting what is important for the country: The Law.

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