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    While Garrosh is a good warrior he is pretty much defenceless against a powerful Warlock spellcaster that Guldan is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zendhal View Post
    After watching movie... I would say Gul'dan would nukestomp drain Garrosh
    Garrosh would MIGHT have chance to hurt him with old god juju
    Dude are you serious?
    He "nukestomp" drained Durotan because they were fistfighting, lol...
    Not only was Durotan taken by surprise, it took Gul'dan quite a while to do so.

    Now put a weapon in Durotan's hands and you might have to watch both Gul'dan's cleaved halves dreaming about nukestomp drainining Durotan from two opposite corners of the arena.
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    Garrosh didn't trinket out of Thrall's Earthgrab either.
    Nah, Garrosh played by the rules while Thrall on the other hand cheated, just like Gul'dan in the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth-Piekus View Post
    While Garrosh is a good warrior he is pretty much defenceless against a powerful Warlock spellcaster that Guldan is.
    It doesn't work that way.

    Spellcaster villains always seem stronger than they really are because they are often at X location using Y artifact with the help of Z creature after preparing W ritual.
    Essentially, when you see Gul'dan easily destroying stuff, he had time to prepare and stack a bunch of advantages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurgath View Post
    Nah, Garrosh played by the rules while Thrall on the other hand cheated, just like Gul'dan in the movie.
    Mak'gora is performed without weapons.
    So both cheated.
    Garrosh used weapons.
    Thrall's main weapon is spellcasting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurvus View Post
    It doesn't work that way.

    Spellcaster villains always seem stronger than they really are because they are often at X location using Y artifact with the help of Z creature after preparing W ritual.
    Essentially, when you see Gul'dan easily destroying stuff, he had time to prepare and stack a bunch of advantages.

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    Mak'gora is performed without weapons.
    So both cheated.
    Garrosh used weapons.
    Thrall's main weapon is spellcasting.
    so lothar cheated then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurvus View Post
    Mak'gora is performed without weapons.
    So both cheated.
    Garrosh used weapons.
    Thrall's main weapon is spellcasting.
    Good point!

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    Lorewise:Gul'dan

    Gamewise:Garrosh would be in his 5th health bar while Gul'dan would be dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurvus View Post
    Dude are you serious?
    He "nukestomp" drained Durotan because they were fistfighting, lol...
    Not only was Durotan taken by surprise, it took Gul'dan quite a while to do so.

    Now put a weapon in Durotan's hands and you might have to watch both Gul'dan's cleaved halves dreaming about nukestomp drainining Durotan from two opposite corners of the arena.
    We've seen what happens when you put great warrior with weapon against Gul'dan...


    And Grom would bitch slap the shit out of Garry... He murdered Mannoroth.. twice! What significant demon did Garrosh kill? He couldn't even kill Taran zhu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurvus View Post
    Mak'gora is performed without weapons.
    So both cheated.
    Mak'gora allows one weapon per part. It's also allowed the blessing of a shaman on said weapon, even though is not strictly required.

    Thrall's main weapon is spellcasting.
    Yeah, but is not like he started using spells from the beginning. Thrall proved he could stand his ground against Garrosh with his own allowed weapon and martial prowess. I don't see the point of a "duel of honor" if you can just roflstomp your opponent at any time with lolmagic.

    This said, both Garrosh and Thrall broke several rules of the traditional take of the duel. They didn't even have visible witnesses during the fight, something Gul'dan and Durotan definitely had in the movie.
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    We're talking Legion vs. Void by proxy. Depends on what point in their career and how buffed they are.

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    Not trying to dodge the question; it's potentially a good match, but both of them go up and down in power so much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zendhal View Post
    We've seen what happens when you put great warrior with weapon against Gul'dan...
    Again, the same thing.
    Every scene where Gul'dan looks OP he's prepared to the teeth, on his playground, on his terms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurvus View Post
    Again, the same thing.
    Every scene where Gul'dan looks OP he's prepared to the teeth, on his playground, on his terms.
    And what preparation would Grom take ? meditation before battle ? He got the weapon, that's his preparation. Aaaaaaand it was on Grom's ground

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    If you remember in the movie Guldan didn't use his full power at the start as you could see he was trying to use his powers from the witnesses. When the Dark Portal flashed Green then Guldan said that he doesnt have time for this which Blackhand responded that the battle will continue and then he used his full power and Durotan was pretty much defenceless.

    As for the preparation it doesn't matter how much preparation he can do. They are facing each other in an open field each one some steps away from the other waiting for the referee to signal the start of the battle. At best Garrosh could take him by surprise but apart from that he is defenceless against a very powerful spellcaster.

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    Illidan, because they weren't prepared.

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