I think it is desiring some utopia in the future, I believe man will fight to survive and things will change but progress is largely up to ones interpretation. We may develop newer technology but I do not foresee it radically changing Humans whom have not changed internally in thousands of years. To put it bluntly, you can give a primate a suite and tie, give him a lamp and a cigar, but in the end he is still an ape, though a classy as fuck ape.
I expect things will change, but I do not believe in "progress," in the sense that things always become better, or that this is a constant rule. I am hopeful that technology may improve things, but I am also aware of humanity and its needs and its nature being wild and primal deep down.
On MMO-C we learn that Anti-Fascism is locking arms with corporations, the State Department and agreeing with the CIA, But opposing the CIA and corporate America, and thinking Jews have a right to buy land and can expect tenants to pay rent THAT is ultra-Fash Nazism. Bellingcat is an MI6/CIA cut out. Clyburn Truther.
Honestly, it reads like you're trying to hand-wave it away when it's been pretty consistent for a while now. Neither is liked, but Trump has consistently been disliked more. Neither is polling super strong with likely voters, but Hillary consistently polls higher than Trump. The difference between the two in both polls varies, but their positions relative to each other remains the same.
Neither side is liked, but Hillary is "winning/doing it better" but being disliked less. In the end, when it comes to getting elected you just need to be disliked less than the other candidate.
TLDR: Both are shit, Hillary is just slightly less shit.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Can we just ignore the obvious Donald Dump thread derailing supporter? For christs sake he has an Obama miss-quote out of context as his sig to imply he's somehow a secret muslim terrorist - and only one candidate promotes that stupidity.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
It's a much bigger gap than head to head polls suggest. Clinton will win almost every group by a substantial margin. The only group that will be close is white males without a college education.
But hey, just push aside browns and blacks. Forget lgbt and all the other demos. Just consider women. In 2012 they were 53% of the vote. Obama won them by 12%. What the fuck do you think is gonna happen this time? Especially if Warren is VP.
The worst thing Romney ever said or did was, "binders full of women". Just let that sink in.
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The moderates on the left aren't going to side with the authoritarian left.
I really can't believe you hate the idea of losing control of the political narrative so much that you'd vote for that demon Hillary over Trump.
But whatever. All the skeletons come out soon. We'll see who has higher unfavorables then. If Bernie expects his supporters to tow the line and follow Hillary then he will lose a lot of support as well. I see some statist libertarians running now as well. They must want the Bernie voters who don't support Hillary.
At this point it's just a numbers game really. Trump just needs 55-60% of the country on his side. Feel free to support Hillary. You won't be able to control her.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
Didn't cherry pick... Literally every single one of your posts prior to saying Hilary is just as bad. Feel free to do as I did and post what I omitted between you starting questioning unfavorable number validity to the point you brought up Hilary. Here is your golden opportunity to show I am cherry picking or in any way being dishonest. If I change that post, there will be a time stamp and edit indication. This is your chance to show the forum the sort of underhanded bullshit you accuse me of. Ready... Set... Go!
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
...Garian just claimed that Hillary is less controlable than Donald Dump. Wow...
Projecting your current Republican fears of Dump onto Clinton isn't going to work. Your own party is crying over the fact hes acting on hos own like a rabid baboon...
What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
'Cause they're working for the clampdown
They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
When we're working for the clampdown
We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers
Trump always rises in polls whenever he's debating, and right now he's not debating with Clinton. She's pointedly dodging him until she thinks she has enough ammo to combat the absolutely enormous amount of dirt Trump (and the FBI, as of late) has on her.
But let's be honest, what is she going to scrounge up? That five of his five hundred business went bankrupt? That he's not afraid to say what he thinks? Trump may indulge in the same loopholes other business moguls do, but on a personal level the guy is squeaky clean. He doesn't even drink alcohol. He cooks all of his food well-done. He is the poster boy for not taking risks, and compared to Hillary he's practically a saint.
The only hope Hillary has is using her ties in the media and political realms to pile on negative Trump press 24/7, as well as rake in the butthurt Republicans. But is that going to make her look good? All it really looks like is a corrupt system controlled by one group... which Trump can then point out any time he wants, making Hillary look like even more of a bad guy.