What happens to now? [UK\EU]

[Brexityess123]

There is nothing to be succesful with? Every financial expert agency across the globe is predicting an economy downfall over the coming years. There is nothing to "gain", you stepped out and fucked your economy, your economy will stay fucked because any deal you had before with the EU you can at best only get the same ones you had while having no more say on what goes on within the EU itself.

UK gave away the seat at the table. Huge amounts of London financial workers are already preparing to emigrate out of the UK.

Wondering "if the UK will be succesful on it's own" is like wondering "if sun will be cold". What the fuck did people expect voting on populist opinion and Nigel Farage? Jezus fuck. Why don't they all have a referendum next time on whether they want to castrate themselves or not?

No theyre not lmfao.

Up to 2018 will see house prces falling 3k in every 500k. Moving forwards there is prediction of heavy Asian investment.

The pound sterling will crush the euro.

[Bethanie]

We are not going to have a shitty dragon on our flag, nor have any green on it. Wales is represented by the flag of the Kingdom of England & Wales (which looks remarkably like the Flag of England, but that is pure coincidence).

It's true Wales was a part of the Kingdom of England prior to the creation of Great Britain. Still I feel that the combination of Saint Georges cross and the Welsh Dragon fit quite well. I would however scale the dragon to fit in the upper left quadrant and drop the green entirely.

[AeneasBK]

Well you see....you're flitting from one side of the argument to the other. You have no concrete opinion, you can't see the forest for the trees and you're making a fool of yourself.

Yeah you're still making shit up as you go along tho

Sounds like a typical "leave" voter, amirite? Hue hue hue.

[Deleted]

So concerned about the future that they did not bother to vote in a referendum on the future?

Referendums mean every vote counts, so the claim that their vote does not count is not one that can be used here, especially a referendum that was virtually 50-50 before polling as the Brexit one was.

Nor can the claim that nothing changes be used, as this was literally a vote to change the future of the UK.

It's no mystery why they didn't vote. It was sunny and they couldn't be arsed whilst saying "1 vote doesn't matter"

[Kalis]

You'd rather have a sheep on it? It's either that or a dragon.

We will compromise, they can have a lion.

Sod it, go mad, we will give Wales three lions.

[Deleted]

A Britain who voted in 1974 to join it. Really, stop making shit up.

That was a common market, for trading, it was not the EU.

[Deleted]

Nor can the claim that nothing changes be used, as this was literally a vote to change the future of the UK.

It looks increasingly possible that it may not. The Leave campaign seems to be doing a flip on EU immigration, which for most brexiteers was the whole point.

I'm beginning to wonder whether this whole referendum wasn't just a power grab by factions within the British establishment. At the moment they haven't even issued a timetable for leaving the EU much less actually done anything towards it. They seem to have absolutely no idea what to do now.

[Deleted]

"every vote counts" - is just a form of rhetoric, most teenagers realise that.

Every vote DOES count regarding this

[Kalis]

"every vote counts" - is just a form of rhetoric, most teenagers realise that.

It was a referendum, where literally every vote counts, not FPTP where you can argue that your vote is worthless on a national scale.

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It looks increasingly possible that it may not. The Leave campaign seems to be doing a flip on EU immigration, which for most brexiteers was the whole point.

I'm beginning to wonder whether this whole referendum wasn't just a power grab by factions within the British establishment. At the moment they haven't even issued a timetable for leaving the EU much less actually done anything towards it. They seem to have absolutely no idea what to do now.

It has only been a couple of days, at least wait until the dust settles.

[Deleted]

It's true Wales was a part of the Kingdom of England prior to the creation of Great Britain. Still I feel that the combination of Saint Georges cross and the Welsh Dragon fit quite well. I would however scale the dragon to fit in the upper left quadrant and drop the green entirely.

The green needs to stay, as it represents the meadows the sheep are grazing on.

[Deleted]

You can be against leaving and capitalist exploitation.

First rational thing you've said.

Absolutely, you can also be against capitalist exploitation and want to leave. I'm against globalisation and I want my own country's government to make laws (for good or ill) for us, and not have to bend to the will of Brussels which has a different mindset.

[Deleted]

We will compromise, they can have a lion.

Sod it, go mad, we will give Wales three lions.

A proper compromise would be 3 sheep instead, lol.

[Deleted]

It was a referendum, where literally every vote counts, not FPTP where you can argue that your vote is worthless on a national scale.

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It has only been a couple of days, at least wait until the dust settles.

With regard to the contingency plans, yes, but the backflip on immigration is extraordinary. The votes were still being counted yesterday.

[Mizix]

Well i mean you can just say that's the reason but im sure it's not. I'm pretty sure young people are the ones who are most concerned about the future from what i can tell.

Sure there are probably some that just don't care but you gotta ask why. Is it because they feel that voting is pointless because it doesn't change anything etc. etc.

I wouldn't look at people so superficially.

It's still not an excuse. I'm Swiss and we vote four times every year - minimum - on multiple objects; "voter apathy" is a thing here. But when some referendum I was against pass and I didn't go to vote, I don't complain about the result. Voting is not just a right, it is also a duty. It is YOUR duty as a citizen to keep democracy alive. One cannot complain his voice was not listened to when he or she can't even be bothered to go to vote once in a lifetime... There was hardly something more important to do that day for a young Brit concerned about his future.

[Deleted]

Sigh. I can't really be assed to try explaining what it's like growing up these days. As far as i can tell none of you really actually give enough of a shit about other people to listen.

Oh pull the fucking other one, life isn't that bad for young people that voting in a historical event warrants CBA. If young people really cared about their future they would've voted and not expect grown ups to do it for them! Either they didn't care or did care but actively didn't vote. In both cases they can STFU moaning and blaming others

[Deleted]

First rational thing you've said.

Absolutely, you can also be against capitalist exploitation and want to leave. I'm against globalisation and I want my own country's government to make laws (for good or ill) for us, and not have to bend to the will of Brussels which has a different mindset.

The westminster elite are much better at capitalist exploitation that Brussels ever was.

Most of europe is noticeably more socialist than Britain.

[Kalis]

Sigh. I can't really be assed to try explaining what it's like growing up these days. As far as i can tell none of you really actually give enough of a shit about other people to listen.

So you have no rational argument for why young people did not vote, got it.

I live in another country, yet I went out of my why to set up a proxy vote, that took far more time and effort than walking down to a voting station. Had those young people voted for something they are so concerned about, then perhaps remain would have won, but they clearly do not give a shit about the future and so we lost.

[Deleted]

Oh pull the fucking other one, life isn't that bad for young people that voting in a historical event warrants CBA. If young people really cared about their future they would've voted and not expect grown ups to do it for them! Either they didn't care or did care but actively didn't vote. In both cases they can STFU moaning and blaming others

I understand people given the choice between voting for two revolting elites choose neither. I only voted remain by holding my nose, I can't fault those who didn't bother.

[Kalis]

A proper compromise would be 3 sheep instead, lol.

Goddamnit, no sheep and no bloodt dragons.

This is what they can have...

[Deleted]

lol
I told you.

I mean you could try listening for once instead of telling people what they believe.

Did you vote?

Seriously what possible reason was there not to vote beyond laziness or not caring? You have no answer do you