Church secretary gun advocate mom shoots and kills teen daughters, then is killed.

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if the american obsession with guns is not condoning terrorism I dont know what is.

There is something fundamentally wrong with the mental processes of anyone defending gun ownership when your nation guns down so many of its own citizens every year.

[Incredibale]

Which is why I'm all for harsher punishments on speeders and people who drinking and driving and text while driving.

Then we need to execute murderers, full stop, instead of giving them decades-long or life sentences.

What we don't need to do is pull out forced memes like "responsible gun ownership".

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if the american obsession with guns is not condoning terrorism I dont know what is.

There is something fundamentally wrong with the mental processes of anyone defending gun ownership when your nation guns down so many of its own citizens every year.

Ugh.

I guess the moral breakdown of society has nothing to do with it.

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it has nothing to do with guns its the religion

religion is dangerous

for fucks sake its not complicated

Don't scapegoat. Religion has nothing to do with it. A vast majority of religious people in the US aren't fucking insane. Religion is just an excuse like any other.

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Meanwhile, "responsible car ownership" results in tens of thousands of deaths in the US each year.

And somehow, you equate this to "LETS GIVE PEOPLE GUNS". Shouldn't the fact that car accidents happen so much be a WARNING rather than an encouragement to give people more tools with which to kill each other?

[Kuntantee]

What a nutjob...

[Incredibale]

An America with no cars puts your country on its arse.

An America with no guns brings you into line with the civilised world.

Millions of people dead last century due to gun grabbing communists speak against that.

Not that Euroville is civilized under its veil of centuries old architecture anyway.

And somehow, you equate this to "LETS GIVE PEOPLE GUNS". Shouldn't the fact that car accidents happen so much be a WARNING rather than an encouragement to give people more tools with which to kill each other?

No, it's a warning against the moral destabilization of society.

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So does a gun. It's for protection and putting food on the table.

The rest of the world doesn't seem to have this problem. Hunters can have guns. It requires training and a license that isn't easy to get. Not here anyway.

[Surfd]

She could have just as easily drove her car into a train with the kids inside and killed them, or waited until they were asleep and set the house on fire and killed them. You see what I am getting at? Give it a fucking rest already with the gun control, GUNS DON"T KILL PEOPLE, CRAZY FUCKING PEOPLE, KILL! the method is the only thing that changes.

Dumbest fucking arguement ever. Yes, a gun, by itself, does not kill people. But a gun is a tool that exists PURELY to kill things. The very nature of a gun is to IMPROVE YOUR ABILITY TO KILL SHIT. And when it comes to killing shit, a gun is signifigantly better at it then a knife. About the only advantage a knife has over a gun is that you never run out of amunition.

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No, it's a warning against the moral destabilization of society.

Wait...how exactly is car accidents related to the destabilization of society...?

[Surfd]

So does a gun. It's for protection and putting food on the table.

Bullshit. Guns do not "protect" people. Guns are WEAPONS. Look the fucking word up. Weapons do not PROTECT. Shields Protect. Armor Protects. Weapons KILL.

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Dumbest fucking arguement ever. Yes, a gun, by itself, does not kill people. But a gun is a tool that exists PURELY to kill things. The very nature of a gun is to IMPROVE YOUR ABILITY TO KILL SHIT. And when it comes to killing shit, a gun is signifigantly better at it then a knife. About the only advantage a knife has over a gun is that you never run out of amunition.

It's a huge difference in intent as well.

It requires very little to pull a trigger on a person whos face you might not even see. It require a hell of a lot more, to grab a knife and go into a melee to kill someone. It's also much, much less effective. People can survive dozens of stab wounds, but A SINGLE BULLET can kill you.

[Kogoes]

Gun advocates use a shooting as an example of why citizens should be armed to protect themselves? OMG HOW DARE YOU EXPLOIT A TRAGEDY!

Gun opponents use a murder and the loss of life as an outcry to do away with guns? No such outrage.

This is why I hate the right.

[Templar 331]

Then we need to execute murderers, full stop, instead of giving them decades-long or life sentences.

Agreed as long as it is proven they did the murder.

What we don't need to do is pull out forced memes like "responsible gun ownership".

I used it because of how the woman in the story spouts the same rhetoric as many gun owners.

[Blade Wolf]

The problem isn't the guns, it's the people.

Nordic countries have an absurd number of firearms (per capita) compared to the rest of the Europe, yet have some of the lowest figures for weapon related accidents / homocides by firearms (and way, way less compared to US).

Safety training, screening and strict requirements for firearm licenses is what keeps the numbers down here.

B-B-B-But strict requirements equals complete gun ban!

[Xandrigity]

Nut jobs will always find a way to kill people. Ban nut jobs.

[Kolvarg]

so if they were all in the car together and she drives into a wall or something it would of given medics a chance to save them if we ban cars?

Cars are designed as a mean of transport, and have been and still are continuously improved to be safer and to protect the people inside.

Guns are design as a mean to injure/kill things, and have been and still are continuously improved to be better at injuring/killing.


That's the main difference.

Not saying banning guns will fix everything, just saying dismissing the problem because "other things which can be used to kill are not banned/regulated" doesn't really help much.

Should I be able to own a nuke if I want to collect it? Or if I find recreational to own one? Or if I believe I need it to defend myself? Where do we draw lines?

[Barnabas]

Would it make a difference if she stabbed her kids with a kitchen knife and then refused to drop the knife when police arrived?

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I wonder if you have ever considered that some rights that have been granted in the past shouldn't have been granted in the first place? That it really wouldn't be that bad if that right was taken away, or was much more restricted?

[Kolvarg]

Would it make a difference if she stabbed her kids with a kitchen knife and then refused to drop the knife when police arrived?

If she stabbed one of her kids with a kitchen knife, the other kid would've probably been able to escape alive. And the first one would've had more chances of survival.

[Barnabas]

Yet people have drones now and have armed them? This video must be old?

[Incredibale]

That's no way to speak of your fellow countrymen. I know the nra whittols are holding a gun to the head of America, but I they are more of a national socialist mindset than communist.

No, we don't have commies running the NRA here, sorry. I'm glad you think so well of your murdering intellectual soul mates though.