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  1. #161
    I doubt it would happen. I would have preferred the Tories rules on union strike action to have been applied to the referendum.
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  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by Florena Emberlin View Post
    I'm not saying it's perfect, but the whole point of putting it up to a vote is to see what the majority wants. If anyone in the stay camp didn't vote and regrets it, well too ****ing bad you should have done your civic duty and voted the first time. I'll bet the people calling for a new referendum now wouldn't be if the vote had still be this close but gone the other way.
    youre probably right

    because they realize that for something this big you need a supermajority

  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by Florena Emberlin View Post
    I'm not saying it's perfect, but the whole point of putting it up to a vote is to see what the majority wants. If anyone in the stay camp didn't vote and regrets it, well too ****ing bad you should have done your civic duty and voted the first time. I'll bet the people calling for a new referendum now wouldn't be if the vote had still be this close but gone the other way.
    Of course not. But i think the fact that Farage goes out the day after and retracts like every promise he made is sickening and something that should be "punished". I think politicians should be punished harder for blatantly lying to everyone.

  4. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by Nirya View Post
    Keep calling for referendums until you get the results you want?
    This petition was set up by a leave supporter.
    Last edited by Netherspark; 2016-06-26 at 03:16 PM.

  5. #165
    political correct hypocrites should stop whining and accept reality

  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by zwiggy View Post
    Im 27 and a plumber kitchens bathroom fitting ect. What half the people the news reports are questioning are idiots who have no idea about the country they live in.

    A building site i went to in Liverpool had a coach load of Polish people who came to the UK by coach built the building then went home back to Poland when it was finished.

    There is a documentary on at the moment called how to get a council house. It showed one polish guy who had been here a year working in a shop or something. He was living in a converted garage with his family and his landlord blocked off the bedroom because it wasn't safe. Anyway he went to the council they looked at the building and said this is built illegally and evicted him and his family. They wouldn't of put him on the streets he will be somware with a roof until he gets a proper home sorted.

    But fact is this guy wasn't a doctor or scientist or anything the country needs he was just a guy who wanted work and that's the problem. 1 year here with a job a teenager can do and a free house.

    Another point i would it like make is most people i talk to who didn't want to leave didn't even vote then bitch about well i would of voted if i knew.

    Fuck anyone who says that because you should of voted we do not need another vote because some of you are lazy bastards.
    Typical builder mentality. All these Poles are stealing our jobs, getting free houses etc.... First it was the Irish, then the Blacks, then the Asians and now the Eastern Europeans. Same shit different generation. Always blame the foreigners because it's the easiest target.

    /golfclap.

  7. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Nirya View Post
    Keep calling for referendums until you get the results you want?
    That's been the operating standard for the separatists here in Quebec. Two referendums thus far haven't gone their way. but they still keep talking about having another one should they regain power.

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    You made your decision. LIVE WITH IT. Or die. Done giving a fuck. You don't deserve a second referendum.

  9. #169
    Make THIS referendum a BINDING one.

    And link it to Scottish independence, to Gibraltar going back to Spain, and so on.

  10. #170
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    There can't be a second referendum because they would lose their meaning since they would become common place. There might be one in future years, but not now. Where there might be referendums is in North Ireland and Scotland, the former voted to remain in the UK because they would've left the EU.

    As it is now, we are just waiting for the EU to decide what will it do? Will it make UK an example or not?

    For now, the English who voted for the brexit should at least keep in mind that more than 2.4 trillion USD were lost in a day, and more each day. That 400k+ English in countries such as Spain, not only do their acquisition rates have been reduced but also that, as it currently stands, they will have to cope with higher costs of life and go through VISA's for living, working and tourism.

  11. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by apples View Post
    because they realize that for something this big you need a supermajority
    watch this statement be forgotten when the second vote ends split but in favor of remaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakazam View Post
    Typical builder mentality.
    leftists gotta label.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Netherspark View Post
    This petition was set up by a leave supporter.
    and made popular by who again?
    we are his...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzPuK1vib_c


    Quote Originally Posted by Barael View Post
    This is like creationists trying to smear evolution by calling it a religion.

  12. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by Allenseiei View Post
    There can't be a second referendum because they would lose their meaning since they would become common place. There might be one in future years, but not now. Where there might be referendums is in North Ireland and Scotland, the former voted to remain in the UK because they would've left the EU.

    As it is now, we are just waiting for the EU to decide what will it do? Will it make UK an example or not?

    For now, the English who voted for the brexit should at least keep in mind that more than 2.4 trillion USD were lost in a day, and more each day. That 400k+ English in countries such as Spain, not only do their acquisition rates have been reduced but also that, as it currently stands, they will have to cope with higher costs of life and go through VISA's for living, working and tourism.
    The EU cant do anything until our government decides to start the leave process. The referendum is just a poll of public opinion. Even if they do, the UK is one of the biggest economies in the world and the EU will want to work constructively with the UK to get the right deal for both parties.

    I think a General Election is more likely. One think is for sure, the UK is in a right mess politically.

  13. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ianus View Post
    political correct hypocrites should stop whining and accept reality
    I find it very disturbing the ammount of anti-democratic talks from the "left" right now. Blaming older people, demaning second referendums and imposing a theoretical gap to validate it, etc. Even in my country the media pushes and they say stuff like this:

    Civilization was built with the bat , sword with NO free will.
    It's like they want to have a veto on democracy and democratic vote if they don't like it.

  14. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by Allenseiei View Post
    There can't be a second referendum because they would lose their meaning since they would become common place. There might be one in future years, but not now. Where there might be referendums is in North Ireland and Scotland, the former voted to remain in the UK because they would've left the EU.

    As it is now, we are just waiting for the EU to decide what will it do? Will it make UK an example or not?

    For now, the English who voted for the brexit should at least keep in mind that more than 2.4 trillion USD were lost in a day, and more each day. That 400k+ English in countries such as Spain, not only do their acquisition rates have been reduced but also that, as it currently stands, they will have to cope with higher costs of life and go through VISA's for living, working and tourism.
    Use the Tories planned new rules for union strike ballots for public services as the benchmark. When people claim that this is merely out of butthurt, look at the margins. They are fucking slim. Making such a huge leap based off of such a small majority (when certain claims made in favour of leaving have now been shown to be not true). Use the union strike margins. 40% of those eligible to vote. Then we wouldn't be talking about 2% points of a difference, the difference would be unquestionable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gelannerai View Post


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  15. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    Unfortunately that seems common in today's politics

    Scotland voted IN regarding UK
    2 years later Scotland wants ANOTHER referendum

    UK voted OUT regarding EU
    2 days later IN crowd want ANOTHER referendum
    because people change their minds

  16. #176
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoroaster09 View Post
    The EU cant do anything until our government decides to start the leave process. The referendum is just a poll of public opinion. Even if they do, the UK is one of the biggest economies in the world and the EU will want to work constructively with the UK to get the right deal for both parties.

    I think a General Election is more likely. One think is for sure, the UK is in a right mess politically.
    IMO it looks to me like the UK is ripe to explode politically.

    You have the Scots and Irish wanting to stay in while the English want to leave. You also have the referendum basically being decided by the over 65's half of whom will be dead by the time the Uk finally does leave as its going to take a decade to fully bring about, while those who will have to live with the decision for 50+ years, the young, voting to stay in.

    Then to top it all off the leave voters have been sold a false bill of goods on the main reason they are voting to leave, since if the UK is to stay in the single European market then it has to accept the freedom of movement concept, meaning there will be zero change in the laws governing immigration. And IF the gov ever did restrict immigration then it'd lose access to the single European market which means all the big US and Asian multinationals that operate in the UK as a convenient half way point to Europe would shut their doors. That in turn would send the UK into an immediate and very very deep recession, with a sterling crisis, stock market collapse, addendum.
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yinyatto View Post
    because people change their minds
    Well in that's case let's just have annual referendums every year, sounds awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    Well in that's case let's just have annual referendums every year, sounds awesome
    You got them... They're called elections.
    "The pen is mightier than the sword.. and considerably easier to write with."

  19. #179
    as a Scottish citizen if a 2nd independence referendum came along i would ONLY vote yes IF that meant not rejoining the EU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Considering a lot of morons actually googled shit like "What is the EU" among other things after voting. We should have another and not let these people vote if they have 0 clue what they are voting for. I don't know what it fully is so I didn't vote because I didn't want to be a stupidity vote.
    I agree with you in spirit, however, when it comes to either...

    Nationalism, xenophobia, isolationism.

    Vs.

    Peace, unity, globalisation and progress.

    It should be obvious (which it is to most reasonably intelligent people) which is the better.
    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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