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    Trump's back in control of his Twitter feed

    There was some talk that someone took over Trump's Twitter feed because the language structure had changed. That maybe so but he is back in charge. Of his twelve tweets today three are about the ABC poll that shows him behind 12 points. This really seems to have shook him.



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    Clinton regains double-digit lead over Trump: Reuters/Ipsos poll

    Democratic presidential contender Hillary Clinton regained a double-digit lead over Republican rival Donald Trump this week, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Friday.

    The June 20-24 poll showed that 46.6 percent of likely American voters supported Clinton while 33.3 percent supported Trump. Another 20.1 percent said they would support neither candidate.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN0ZA3KG

    So the ABC poll that shows a double digit lead for Clinton is bad but as he has said another poll showing a similar double digit lead is good.

    Moves are under way to take back his Twitter feed. /s

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    Free Speech Paragon doesn't want to allow Cruz and Kasich to speak at the GOP convention unless they endorse him. And letting his inner thug speak: "My supporters are tremendously loyal to me. They would not stand for it."

    Trump: Cruz, Kasich shouldn't speak at convention without endorsement

    Donald Trump won't invite former rivals Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Gov. John Kasich of Ohio to speak at the Republican National Convention without endorsements from both, he told The New York Times.

    "If there's no endorsement, then I would not invite them to speak," Trump said.
    Trump's comments come as his campaign and the Republican National Committee work to ensure next month's convention goes as smoothly as possible.

    There have been rumblings that displeased delegates will stage a revolt to try to oust the presumptive Republican nominee, but RNC leaders are threatening to withhold speaking slots and warning that attempting to undermine Trump violates party rules, The Times reported.

    Trump told the Times his opponents will fail in derailing his nomination.

    "You mean to tell me we're going to get the largest vote in his history of the Republican primaries and now the same people that either didn't run or get beaten in a landslide are going to try and back-end?" Trump said.

    "My supporters are tremendously loyal to me. They would not stand for it."

    Under party rules, Trump cannot deny Cruz a speaking opportunity. Because Cruz won a majority of delegates in at least eight states, he will likely have his name entered into nomination, guaranteeing him a speaking spot.

    At a rally earlier this month, Trump said he would rather have athletes speak at the convention instead of politicians, seeming to take issue with speeches that don't center on the nominee.

    "What I'm thinking about doing for the convention is rather [than] these politicians, you know — they're gonna get up and speak and speak and speak," Trump said at a rally in Richmond, Va. "You remember last time with [Mitt] Romney, all these politicians got up and they kept speaking and they didn't mention Romney's name. They spoke — one guy spoke for like 45 minutes. He never mentioned Romney's name."

    "Well we're going to do it a little differently, if it's OK."
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/284956-trump-wont-invite-cruz-kasich-to-speak-at-convention?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link

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    The campaign to fight Trump at the convention that Trump claims doesn't exist yet is run by Jeb Bush is now working on hiring staff as they prepare to take on Trump at the convention.

    Dump Trump Movement Planning for Convention Floor Fight

    The grassroots movement aimed at ousting Donald Trump at the Republican National Convention is planning for a convention floor fight, hiring staff, establishing a command center in Cleveland and rolling out ads in key states over the next week.

    Organizers of the effort held their second weekly conference call Sunday night.

    Former Bogota, New Jersey, Mayor Steve Lonegan, a Ted Cruz supporter and spokesman for a super PAC backing the effort, said he plans to hire East, West and Central regional field directors to begin building a "comprehensive list of every single delegate" to get to know their interests and issues.

    The group is also planning to hire a full-time executive director, because the current staff is working on a volunteer basis, Lonegan said. An advance team is heading to Cleveland this week to build a command center outside the convention center.

    Lonegan said the "most critical" step is airing ads for delegates who are "under duress" from state party officials or others for speaking out against Trump or in support of a change to the convention rules.

    Related: Anti-Trump Republican Delegates Allege 'Intimidation' by Party Leaders

    The group launched a small radio ad buy this past week targeting Iowa Rules Committee member Steve Scheffler, who Lonegan said had been "rather heavy-handed" in trying to persuade delegates to oppose a rules change.

    While the group is focused first on trying to change the convention rules to allow delegates to vote their consciences, it's also looking to educate delegates on an interpretation of the rules that argues that delegates aren't bound to vote for any candidate to begin with.

    Read the rest at: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/dump-trump-movement-planning-convention-floor-fight-n599361
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    I love that framing "Bernie Bro," appealing to the intense sense of identity politics, and implying that the divide between Hillary and Bernie was one of evil Patriarchy rape demon from the sexism dimension and proud strong women from the feminism dimension. Ignoring Hillary lost badly among women under 40. But whatever.
    You must be a rogue, cause you just popped evasion and dodged those questions.

    Why does the Bernie or Bust movement think voting for Trump will be some kind of symbolic form of protest, or that voting for Bernie will be some kind of weird form of symbolic protest? When the results come out and Bernie has 5% of the votes, nobody is going to care.

    Far more meaningful course of action is to push a proper progressive candidate for the people in 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Batman View Post
    You must be a rogue, cause you just popped evasion and dodged those questions.

    Why does the Bernie or Bust movement think voting for Trump will be some kind of symbolic form of protest, or that voting for Bernie will be some kind of weird form of symbolic protest? When the results come out and Bernie has 5% of the votes, nobody is going to care.

    Far more meaningful course of action is to push a proper progressive candidate for the people in 2020.
    Nobody is discussing voting for Trump, certainly not I. Try again, but nice reroll attempt.

    If Hillary needs not Bernie peoples votes then why do you give a shit?
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    Well it's pretty well established that Trump is a vile piece of work. Being scummy like that takes a support mechanism though. One of Trump's main spokespeople is a major spoke in his wheel of douchiness, Katrina Pierson. Her latest example is Trump's change on Muslim's being allowed into the country. He's made a change but all his spokespeople are busy saying it's not a change.

    When Trump announced his plan he said he wanted "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on." Watch Katrina lie about this and watch what CNN does.

    https://twitter.com/CNNSitRoom/statu...54327233863680
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodarzna View Post
    Nobody is discussing voting for Trump, certainly not I. Try again, but nice reroll attempt.

    If Hillary needs not Bernie peoples votes then why do you give a shit?
    Mostly because many of them are going to vote for her anyway rather than risk a Trump presidency. I'm just wondering about the tiny percentage that are going to vote for Trump or write in Bernie's name as if it will mean anything, rather than the reality which is that it will be forgotten in the blink of an eye on election night.

    Why do people feel that seeing the country burn, rather than waiting 4-8 more years for a real candidate similar to Bernie to show up, is better?

    I realize though that those writing in Bernie's name are young and idealistic and have little experience with the world.
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    I love all the bullshit people thinking a lot of us GOP people that went BERN are just going to bend over and vote hillary LAWL. Get ready for a surprise M8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pangean View Post
    There was some talk that someone took over Trump's Twitter feed because the language structure had changed. That maybe so but he is back in charge. Of his twelve tweets today three are about the ABC poll that shows him behind 12 points. This really seems to have shook him.
    Has he threatened to sue yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pangean View Post
    Free Speech Paragon doesn't want to allow Cruz and Kasich to speak at the GOP convention unless they endorse him.
    Honest question: Does Trump get to choose who speaks, and who doesn't speak, at the RNC? Isn't the party in charge, not him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Honest question: Does Trump get to choose who speaks, and who doesn't speak, at the RNC? Isn't the party in charge, not him?
    Yes and no. Because Cruz won a series of states he gets to go and speak no matter what. In general though Trump can orchestrate the convention speakers as he wants. Which is why you hear things like him having no politicians speaking and putting people like Bobby Knight on stage instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dacoolist View Post
    I love all the bullshit people thinking a lot of us GOP people that went BERN are just going to bend over and vote hillary LAWL. Get ready for a surprise M8
    If you were really, truly GOP and believed in what the party stood for and were going for Bernie, I don't think anyone really cares for your vote. What is there 1 maybe two of you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dacoolist View Post
    I love all the bullshit people thinking a lot of us GOP people that went BERN are just going to bend over and vote hillary LAWL. Get ready for a surprise M8
    I don't worry about them, too much of the GOP are scared of socialism to ever consider looking at Bernie. Most of them check under the bed every night to make sure Socialism isn't there. The amount of GOP who were voting for Bernie is probably the size of your graduating class.
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    This looks like the Batman and Pangean circle jerk in here, these polls mean nothing right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    This looks like the Batman and Pangean circle jerk in here, these polls mean nothing right now.
    Yep. And I did see a poll today which showed all the candidates counting the independents and Hillary was at 39%, Trump at 38%. And this was nationally. lol. The Swing states could even have Trump leading in this type of setup. But it is still way too early to put much faith in polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Yep. And I did see a poll today which showed all the candidates counting the independents and Hillary was at 39%, Trump at 38%. And this was nationally. lol. The Swing states could even have Trump leading in this type of setup. But it is still way too early to put much faith in polls.
    Link to poll?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    This looks like the Batman and Pangean circle jerk in here, these polls mean nothing right now.
    Except they're currently a reflection of how likely voters would vote if the election was today. Polling matters, it's what helps shape campaigns.

    Polls don't matter to Trump unless he's winning in them, at which point he won't shut up about them. Case in point, he couldn't stop talking about how he was dominating polls against other Republicans throughout the primaries. He brought them up during speeches, during interviews, and during the debates. Constantly. But once he's behind? They're crooked polsters, polls don't matter, etc.

    It's almost as if it's indicative of his inability to stick to a single opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    This looks like the Batman and Pangean circle jerk in here, these polls mean nothing right now.
    Yeah because on this page alone it's just Bats and me. Are you right on anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Except they're currently a reflection of how likely voters would vote if the election was today. Polling matters, it's what helps shape campaigns.

    Polls don't matter to Trump unless he's winning in them, at which point he won't shut up about them. Case in point, he couldn't stop talking about how he was dominating polls against other Republicans throughout the primaries. He brought them up during speeches, during interviews, and during the debates. Constantly. But once he's behind? They're crooked polsters, polls don't matter, etc.

    It's almost as if it's indicative of his inability to stick to a single opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnier Fructis View Post
    Link to poll?
    It's the NBC poll from yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnier Fructis View Post
    Link to poll?
    It's one of the ones on the realclearpolitics page.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tein-5952.html

    Notice the one right below it (basically same time period) has Clinton ahead by 10%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Yep. And I did see a poll today which showed all the candidates counting the independents and Hillary was at 39%, Trump at 38%. And this was nationally. lol. The Swing states could even have Trump leading in this type of setup. But it is still way too early to put much faith in polls.
    Tsk Tsk, You were already spanked for being dishonest about those polls.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    It's one of the ones on the realclearpolitics page.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...tein-5952.html

    Notice the one right below it (basically same time period) has Clinton ahead by 10%.
    Yeah Ghost has a certain vision issue when it comes to polls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pangean View Post
    Tsk Tsk, You were already spanked for being dishonest about those polls.

    I hope Johnson can hit 10% popular vote nationally... Wouldn't mind Stein doing it, but she is farther behind. It will get overshadowed if Trump or Hilary win, due to unlikley hood of Trump as president or first U.S. female president, but at 10% it would be huge for all independents. Even 5% would be amazing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    This looks like the Batman and Pangean circle jerk in here, these polls mean nothing right now.
    They mean nothing right now, or they mean nothing right now because you don't agree with them?

    I have a sneaking feeling that if they said Trump was ahead, you would be singing a different tune.

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