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    If you don't understand what the problem is, how can you fix things?
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    Tax the 1% harder.

    There is no reason to have the 1% be as filfthy rich as they are.

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    1. Stop asking people to work more and more without giving them a wage increase. Companies always asking for more productivity but never give back to the people making it happen.

    2. Give people a decent amount of time off

    3. Stop having healthcare be such a burden on the general populace that it scares people if they get sick. (U.S issue mostly)

    4. Have education be affordable so people can improve their lives without strapping themselves down with student loans.

    Some ideas on how to improve middle class quality of life and its obviously easier said than done. These mostly apply to the US but can be applicable to most countries I would think.
    The reason they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it.- George Carlin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    That is a decent min wage there. But the cost of living is much higher there than it is like here in Ohio. 10 dollar min wage would be good for here. And tie it with automatic cost of living increases each year. I agree wholeheartedly with number 3 however.
    We're going by states now? Do they spend more for moo cow fuck milk? Do they spend more for Playstation 4's? No, it's just rent or mortgage. That's not a excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PvPHeroLulz View Post
    Tax the 1% harder.

    There is no reason to have the 1% be as filfthy rich as they are.
    And take that money and make jobs. Like teachers for the free education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemak View Post
    What could the government do? It's job. Protect life, liberty, and property. Stop trying to "help" people, that's not what government is for.
    Personally I think one thing they could do is "encourage" (or at least kill loopholes that give them advantages or moving offshore) companies to produce inside the US and not outsource so much service based systems too, also much better oversight of abuse of the H1 Visas (seen that system abused personally and there has been some in the news recently). a little more competition for employees would be a good thing IMO in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemak View Post
    What could the government do? It's job. Protect life, liberty, and property. Stop trying to "help" people, that's not what government is for.
    Limit immigration, have policies that encourage certain businesses. In case of UK they should encouraged house building. They went from avg. pay to avg. house pay of 3x1 to like 12x1 ratio in like 10-15 years. So it's 4x harder for a family working today for the same relative wage to get a house than a family 15 years ago, like maybe their parents for example!

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    My workplace seem to do this properly and I'm a lowly sub £20k peon. Here's what they do:

    - Relaxed, calm, collected work atmosphere. You dont need to stare down and shout to motivate people to work faster. Encouragement is better than Threatening.
    - 37 hours/week. 2 days off. 45 minutes worth of breakes during shift. We're humans not machines... yet
    - Decent pay that allows you to pay for all of your neccesities and still have some left for pleasures.

    Give those three things and bachelors like myself will be happy as long as they stay that way.

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    Force companies which production lines are in cheap countries to return the wage difference in taxes.
    All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side

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    How do you fix globalization?
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    Oh god I would further my education and become middle class if it got me free primo blow! Im working class and I am happy. Me and my girlfriend live in the nice part of town in a 2 bedroom apartment, have nice things and eat well. We both make 10bucks/hr too. IDK why so many people hate the Midwest. cost of living is so low. I would most likely have killed myself by now if I lived in Chicago or NYC. Chicago don't count as Midwest to me its like Mordor.

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    Stop pouring billions into welfare and social programs that promote a lazy society paid for by the hard-working middle-class.

    Invest those savings into jobs and other services such as NHS, Education, etc...

    ????

    Profit

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    1/ Firstly, find out what an Individual wants to be in life.
    Most unhappy middle class workers lack direction and thus end up in a mundane job which lacks fulfilment.

    2/ Have access to Job Mentors and Career Advisors along the way to point them in the right direction
    and to become part of a network of similar individuals.

    3/ introduce more apprenticeships in the trades.

    4/ Get rid of Ageism..whether you are an 18 year old who lacks experience
    or a 60 year who wants to change careers'
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    Ok, I've heard it all now.
    How do you plan to employ 10+ billion people when there are even less jobs at that time then exist now?
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    I am ACTUALLY ASKING for them to ban me and relieve me from the misery of this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    We're going by states now? Do they spend more for moo cow fuck milk? Do they spend more for Playstation 4's? No, it's just rent or mortgage. That's not a excuse.

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    And take that money and make jobs. Like teachers for the free education.
    That is not true. They more than likely also spend more for fuel and ultiities , esp water bills. All those can effect the price of other goods too. And you cannot say the cost of living in homes or apartments is not a big factor. lol! Rent and house payments can be a very large part of your monthly output. It is a very good reason why some places need a higher min wage than others do.

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    For the US:

    1. End PAC's and lobbies.
    2. Enact laws forcing all political donations be 100% anonymous. If violated, the donor AND the recipient both face criminal charges.
    3. Implement mandatory personal finance classes for K-12, (age appropriate of course). It should cover everything from insurance, to credit to savings to investing.
    4. Move capital gains tax rates to 25%. Never let them go above 29% nor below 21%. (Look at a historical chart of CG rates to see why.)
    5. Remove ACA and replace with a single payer system.
    6. Make it easier for people to legally immigrate to the country.
    "When Facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." - Unknown

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    You cant have a high taxation welfare state with open boarders because all you will attract is takers and very little makers and you will start seeing takers out number the makers and it all falls apart

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyxn View Post
    You cant have a high taxation welfare state with open boarders because all you will attract is takers and very little makers and you will start seeing takers out number the makers and it all falls apart
    Atlas Shrugged
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    Not finding-a-cock-on-your-girlfriend-is-normal level of odd, but nevertheless, still odd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    Nah, we are fine with them having the cheap stuff, it is when they start mixing the good stuff with Coca Cola we get pissed off.
    But rum and coke is top tier, of course i don't expect britbongs to have decent taste when it comes to alcohol, but damn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadwen View Post
    How many working Middle class (*the title of the thread) people are currently on SS? *would seem if they were on SS currently they would not be in the Middle income working class.... So as of now they are not getting any of their taxes back in $$ other than services provide by the Gov't.

    *and to compound the unhappy they have this to look forward to unless they plan to retire in the next 20 or so years..
    http://www.nolo.com/legal-encycloped...ent-32416.html
    http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/10/reti...cial-security/
    Err what? Why are you suddenly limiting this to people who are currently working? The thread is about, as the title states, making the working class and middle class happy. Being in these groups does not require those individuals to be currently working, nor has it ever done so. Just because you retire does not mean you suddenly enter some new as yet to be defined class group.

    So yes middle class and working class people do get back much more than they pay in taxes, and cutting taxes will make them worse off, while raising them will make them better off. Stop trying to invent justifications to pretend that this isn't so, just so you can do what you ideologically want to do, which is to cut taxes.

    Are you one of the top 20% who will benefit and not one of the bottom 80% who will lose out from lower taxes I wonder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForLoveOfMe View Post
    Limit immigration, have policies that encourage certain businesses. In case of UK they should encouraged house building. They went from avg. pay to avg. house pay of 3x1 to like 12x1 ratio in like 10-15 years. So it's 4x harder for a family working today for the same relative wage to get a house than a family 15 years ago, like maybe their parents for example!
    Its partly an issue of house building but its also the fact that UK governments have been using this as a method to give free money to boomers and pensioners (as they already own homes) who vote in high numbers, at cost to the young (who don't own homes and who now have to pay massively more) who vote in low numbers. In essence the most selfish generation in history (boomers) is eating its own young and feeling quite smug about it.
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xekus View Post
    But rum and coke is top tier, of course i don't expect britbongs to have decent taste when it comes to alcohol, but damn.
    I have no idea what a britbong is and if you have decent rum, then you do not need any mixer other than ice. Stop being a pikey chav and learn what good alcohol is supposed to taste like.

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