The Benghazi Lie in Black and White

[Vyxn]

Yeah, so the CBS news reported that a policeman (presumably pissed about 9/11 at the time) allege that they saw 8 muslims on a roof "celebrating" in an uncorroborated report.

So from Donald Trump's thousands of Muslims celebrating in the streets, we get to one uncorroborated story from a police officer about 8 muslims on a rooftop.

Clearly Donald Trump has told the truth about this incident related to the deaths of 2000 Americans on American soil in a way that is far less insulting than Clinton incorrectly suggesting one proximate cause of an attack that killed 4 Americans in hostile territory. /s

I conceded that Trump exaggerate the amount did that a few pages ago but an exaggeration is a hell of a lot different then a blatant out right lie that Clinton did

[Fadeslol]

I don't see thousands celebrating as Trump claimed he saw on TV. In fact, if you can get this, then where is thousands Trump claimed he saw on the news? In case you missed it, that clip doesn't show anyone and having a model of the trade center with them, doesn't even make sense.

Well i didn't say thousands of people celebrated but people did. IDK the number.

[Vyxn]

I don't see thousands celebrating as Trump claimed he saw on TV. In fact, if you can get this, then where is thousands Trump claimed he saw on the news? In case you missed it, that clip doesn't show anyone and having a model of the trade center with them, doesn't even make sense.

how many is in a swarm?


I conceded that Trump exaggerate the amount did that a few pages ago but an exaggeration is a hell of a lot different then a blatant out right lie that Clinton did

[Darsithis]

I'm glad you live in NJ and it did happen. You can say all u want it didn't happen but it did.

I think you missed my point by a mile. I've never lived in New Jersey; I was born here in Chicago and have spent most of my life here. My point was that you saying it happened means nothing at all. You can claim anything online or even in person. Until we see a video showing thousands of people cheering the towers falling, and not a second-hand CBS report about eight people being arrested, no one is going to believe it. There is no evidence to support that a large group of arab people or terrorists were there cheering on American soil the day the towers fell no matter how you want to spin it.

The only good thing about this is that we haven't stupidly spent millions of dollars and many years chasing Trump over his misstatement.

[Edge-]

Does this mean...that the ride is over? Can we finally get off? CAN WE FINALLY STOP HEARING ABOUT THIS TOTAL NON-ISSUE?! PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD SAY THAT WE CAN LEAVE THIS POOR, DEAD HORSE ALONE!

[Reeve]

I conceded that Trump exaggerate the amount did that a few pages ago but an exaggeration is a hell of a lot different then a blatant out right lie that Clinton did

Trump's "exaggeration" is much more relevant and carries a whole hell of a lot more weight than Hillary's "lie."

[Felya]

And even if that single report is true, Trump's claim that thousands of Muslims were celebrating in the streets was not.

He also said he saw it on TV. Yet, we get clips from that time, without any mention of thousands celebrating. In fact, the closest it comes to it, is people who were seen celebrating were investigated and detained. Yet, no follow up on those either... No police reports... No detention records...

[Wildtree]

Please stop using that shitty site, its based on lies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3auKMHkZJnQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd52KkFwQWQ

https://twitter.com/MarkHalperin/sta...005440/photo/1

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journal...-celebrations/

Update: I fixed first link.

Slams Politifact as lies source (something a lot of people don't agree with. A lot, as in the whole global body of journalism), and links extreme right wing source Breitbart..
That's priceless...

[Torgent]

I think you missed my point by a mile. I've never lived in New Jersey; I was born here in Chicago and have spent most of my life here. My point was that you saying it happened means nothing at all. You can claim anything online or even in person. Until we see a video showing thousands of people cheering the towers falling, and not a second-hand CBS report about eight people being arrested, no one is going to believe it. There is no evidence to support that a large group of arab people or terrorists were there cheering on American soil the day the towers fell no matter how you want to spin it.

The only good thing about this is that we haven't stupidly spent millions of dollars and many years chasing Trump over his misstatement.

Could you imagine if we did spend money investigating all of his lies? I think we'd have to sell Texas in order to pay for it.

[Fadeslol]

I think you missed my point by a mile. I've never lived in New Jersey; I was born here in Chicago and have spent most of my life here. My point was that you saying it happened means nothing at all. You can claim anything online or even in person. Until we see a video showing thousands of people cheering the towers falling, and not a second-hand CBS report about eight people being arrested, no one is going to believe it. There is no evidence to support that a large group of arab people or terrorists were there cheering on American soil the day the towers fell no matter how you want to spin it.

The only good thing about this is that we haven't stupidly spent millions of dollars and many years chasing Trump over his misstatement.

First, I didn't say it was a thousand people. I said people did, idk the number. I figured you lived in Chicago but u said "I lived in NJ then" so i thought u were from NJ. Now i'm saying THOUSANDS of people cheered. What i'm saying is that some people did, there's a difference. But to say it never happened is a flat out lie.

[Felya]

Does this mean...that the ride is over? Can we finally get off? CAN WE FINALLY STOP HEARING ABOUT THIS TOTAL NON-ISSUE?! PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD SAY THAT WE CAN LEAVE THIS POOR, DEAD HORSE ALONE!

No, you got about 4 more months to go.

[Torgent]

Does this mean...that the ride is over? Can we finally get off? CAN WE FINALLY STOP HEARING ABOUT THIS TOTAL NON-ISSUE?! PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD SAY THAT WE CAN LEAVE THIS POOR, DEAD HORSE ALONE!

Edge-, you know damn well that's not going to happen. We're just going to hear about how everyone covered up how Hilary was solely responsible for the terrorist attack and the public never found out. Soon we'll have "informants" coming out saying that Hilary has a direct line to ISIS and tells them when to attack.

[Bollocks]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/06/29...lack-and-White

I mean dude save some face

[Felya]

First, I didn't say it was a thousand people. I said people did, idk the number. I figured you lived in Chicago but u said "I lived in NJ then" so i thought u were from NJ. Now i'm saying THOUSANDS of people cheered. What i'm saying is that some people did, there's a difference. But to say it never happened is a flat out lie.

You showed a video claiming that people celebrating were arrested or detained. Where are the records of it?

[Fadeslol]

Could you imagine if we did spend money investigating all of his lies? I think we'd have to sell Texas in order to pay for it.

I know you're joking about selling Texas but if we ever sold Texas that would be the stupidest thing we ever do in our life.

[Reeve]

First, I didn't say it was a thousand people. I said people did, idk the number. I figured you lived in Chicago but u said "I lived in NJ then" so i thought u were from NJ. Now i'm saying THOUSANDS of people cheered. What i'm saying is that some people did, there's a difference. But to say it never happened is a flat out lie.

In a population of millions of people, there will always be a couple of edgy dumb fucks.

That doesn't mean that Trump's claims were founded in any sort of significant reality. That doesn't mean that his claims weren't spreading fear and hatred towards the American Muslim community and using the deaths of 2000 Americans for his own political gain by promoting nativism and xenophobia.

[Vyxn]

Okay. I lived in NJ then and it didn't happen.

See? I have as much credibility as you do on the internet. Do you have any real, hard evidence? Do you have videos to show it happened, something other than "eight people were arrested"?

Same with this stupid Hillary shit. Multiple years of investigations and millions of dollars spent have found no conclusive evidence of wrongdoing.

question how are you allowing this thread to become Trump bashing when it is clear the topic is about Benghazi and Clinton time line what she told the public and what she said in private it has nothing to do with Trump this is nothing but an attempt to distract by derailing the thread to Trump
this is blatant derailing that you would infract anyone else for doing but instead you participate in the derailing

and how do you allow a blatant personal attack stand with no action an attack I reported an hour ago

I'm convinced Vyxn is just a conservative troll-bot that escaped from a testing lab to terrorize the internet with wild conspiracy theories and half baked republican nonsense.

[stomination]

Ok, but the things Bush did were fine.

Bush isn't running for president....and he is basically backing Clinton since those 2 families are the overlords of our government.

[Darsithis]

question how are you allowing this thread to become Trump bashing when it is clear the topic is about Benghazi and Clinton time line what she told the public and what she said in private it has nothing to do with Trump this is nothing but an attempt to distract by derailing the thread to Trump
this is blatant derailing that you would infract anyone else for doing but instead you participate in the derailing

I'm making a comparison (twice now) that it's ridiculous that we've chased Hillary over this while pretty much walking away from Trump.

[Fadeslol]

In a population of millions of people, there will always be a couple of edgy dumb fucks.

That doesn't mean that Trump's claims were founded in any sort of significant reality. That doesn't mean that his claims weren't spreading fear and hatred towards the American Muslim community and using the deaths of 2000 Americans for his own political gain by promoting nativism and xenophobia.

Spreading hate towards the American Muslim community. There is no hate towards them. You think every non-American Muslim will start hating American-Muslims? No way.