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  1. #341
    Quote Originally Posted by Deja Thoris View Post
    As opposed to Donald Trump who makes statement like "We should kill the terrorists families" Yea, he advocates warcrimes and torture and worse and you're on about Hilary?

    What a fucking joke your views are.
    Unfortunately in many cases had we done so there would be less problems than today because you can't just tell a terrorist group "no, no that's bad little boy" but instead they get killed and then their families hate the US and make more terrorists. Honestly carpet bombing the middle east is about the only option. But then again people only take trump out of context. The ongoing Clinton witch hunts are silly, but the implying Trump is racist etc is just as dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purebalance View Post
    Unfortunately in many cases had we done so there would be less problems than today because you can't just tell a terrorist group "no, no that's bad little boy" but instead they get killed and then their families hate the US and make more terrorists. Honestly carpet bombing the middle east is about the only option. But then again people only take trump out of context. The ongoing Clinton witch hunts are silly, but the implying Trump is racist etc is just as dumb.
    So you're saying you're totally fine with the US committing war crimes and intentionally targeting innocent civilians? I mean, he wasn't quoted out of context, he said we should kill their families.

    There is no "implying" that Trump is a racist or "implying" he's advocated for war crimes and torture, he's explicitly advocated for both and explicitly been racist. He's been called out by his own bloody party leadership for his racist comments, for fucks sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krigaren View Post
    Bush lied about WMDs in Iraq which has cost the lives of thousands of American soldiers, adversely affected the lives of tens of thousands more, has resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in the region and opened the door for the rise of ISIS.

    But please, tell us how "lying" about how a riot started in Benghazi changes the course of human history.
    Hillary lied... people died.
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  4. #344
    Even Fox News can't make anything stick. Well, I it is funny that the report basically blames lack of security and bureaucracy. Of course this is all on Hillary. Remember when it used to be Obama's fault, but since he was not running for President anymore, blame happened to go away.

    Yes, there was failure. If you want to blame all that basically went on in Benghazi. Again, lack of enough security, lack of intelligence and bureaucracy. It is the same shit we can blame 9/11 on. As much as I hate G.W. Bush with all my heart. I don't have conspiracy theory that he knew 9/11 was going to happen and failed. The government failed in many places.

  5. #345
    Quote Originally Posted by Tempguy View Post
    So she started it and republicans ran with it?

    Okay. So she started it.
    WTF are you Trump Humpers whining about exactly?

    I was lamenting how much money THE REPUBS have spent chasing stupid bullshit. A Trump Humper wanted to make it about something else, cause you know how you guys are....
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    Who. Fucking. Cares? That's right, no one cares. Seems like the only people still on this witch hunt are the conservatards thinking they can cry enough times that people won't vote for Clinton. Quite frankly I don't think either the American public or even people internationally, give a damn about this constant attempt to slander Clinton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathreim View Post
    She and Obama are responsible it happened under their watch instead of acting like adults admitting they screwed up and fixing the problem they passed the blame and if she knew nothing shes incompetent and has no business running for president.

    Someone screwed up and no heads rolled instead the administration circled the wagons and acted like nothing happened and lied to the American public because it was an election year. The fact that to this day no punishment has been doled out points to the problem coming from high up.

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    Hillary started the birther bullshit but lets rewrite history to fit our narrative.
    Would you like me to move the straws closer because you are reaching awful hard.

    Oh, and want to talk about incompetent, you should ask Mr Trump about all the business deals he has failed at or pulled out of because he is a scum sucking asshole.

  7. #347
    Quote Originally Posted by Krigaren View Post
    Bush lied about WMDs in Iraq which has cost the lives of thousands of American soldiers, adversely affected the lives of tens of thousands more, has resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in the region and opened the door for the rise of ISIS.

    But please, tell us how "lying" about how a riot started in Benghazi changes the course of human history.
    Is Bush currently running for president?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    You got any kind of cite for that, cowboy?
    It don't think it help his point, but here you go:

    http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/was...ginal-birther/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Hillary lied... people died.
    I do so enjoy seeing this little jingle pop up from time to time. I especially like the way it's phrased to insinuate that Clinton lied and that caused people to die, i.e. the complete opposite order of how the situation unfolded. Keep repeating it, guys, it's adorable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyster View Post
    Is Bush currently running for president?
    Might be, if delegates that are trying to stop Trump succeed in a brokered convention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    You got any kind of cite for that, cowboy?
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...y-Clinton.html
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...hillaryclinton
    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...19-2008/37952/

    The last link even has the strategy emails from the 08 Clinton campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fadeslol View Post
    How much debt will have? http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us/

    Go find any site, we are 20 tri in debt. Obama has failed us but everyone loves him.
    Yet compared to the last "conservative", he is a golden child when it comes to deficits and debt. And if Trump gets into office, his tax plan alone would add $10 TRILLION in additional debt. More than Obama did.

  13. #353
    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Hillary lied... people died.
    No, Hillary lied...about people who died.

    Bush lied which led to over 4,400 US soldiers dying.

    See the difference?
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  14. #354
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyster View Post
    Is Bush currently running for president?
    It is about as relevant as the implications of Hillary directly interfering in Benghazi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    Hillary lied... people died.
    He made it rhyme. It must be true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shon237 View Post
    It is about as relevant as the implications of Hillary directly interfering in Benghazi.

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    He made it rhyme. It must be true.
    Is Bush currently running for president?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathreim View Post
    There is a few big problems here. The only actions directly from Clinton or her staff in those links are to deny the accusation that he wasn't born in U.S.

    The email from the strategist, also doesn't include any mention of him not being from US, in fact mentioning contrasting Clinton's main land roots and Obama's Hawaiian roots. What it does have explicitly, is the mention to not go negative. You have to believe that Hawaii is not in U.S., as well as not understand what main land roots refers to, to come to your conclusion.

    Also, she did start the Muslim rumor. But, in order to believe that wearing a turban mean you were not born in U.S., you'd have to be a Trump supporter.

    Want me to show you Trump promising undeniable evidance that he has of Obama's foreign birth in 2012?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyster View Post
    Is Bush currently running for president?
    Let me explain... He is bringing up Bush to contrast the reaction. It doesn't mean that Bush us actively running. It is meant to show you the differance in treatment. Because, during the two years of 9/11 commission, Bush was also running. His attempt is for you to look at the two, instead of put fingers in your ears while repeating "Is Bush currently running for president?". Hope that helps... >.<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    There is a few big problems here. The only actions directly from Clinton or her staff in those links are to deny the accusation that he wasn't born in U.S.

    The email from the strategist, also doesn't include any mention of him not being from US, in fact mentioning contrasting Clinton's main land roots and Obama's Hawaiian roots. What it does have explicitly, is the mention to not go negative. You have to believe that Hawaii is not in U.S., as well as not understand what main land roots refers to, to come to your conclusion.

    Also, she did start the Muslim rumor. But, in order to believe that wearing a turban mean you were not born in U.S., you'd have to be a Trump supporter.

    Want me to show you Trump promising undeniable evidance that he has of Obama's foreign birth in 2012?

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    Let me explain... He is bringing up Bush to contrast the reaction. It doesn't mean that Bush us actively running. It is meant to show you the differance in treatment. Because, during the two years of 9/11 commission, Bush was also running. His attempt is for you to look at the two, instead of put fingers in your ears while repeating "Is Bush currently running for president?". Hope that helps... >.<
    So that would be a no. Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyster View Post
    So that would be a no. Hope that helps.
    Uhm... Not quite...

    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Might be, if delegates that are trying to stop Trump succeed in a brokered convention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Uhm... Not quite...
    Still a no. Hope that helps.

  20. #360
    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    What was the cover up? That she told the public something that wasn't accurate during the first few hours after an attack? That's sort of how this works.
    Well, some people might call that lying =)

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