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    Quote Originally Posted by Zakaryy View Post
    Goes over my head how people can't understand that this is just mocking the LGBT movement. Hetero pride isn't even a real thing.
    Not once have straight people been oppressed for which gender they prefer. Never.

    Interracial relationships was seen as taboo once upon a time, remember this? not a thing anymore.
    What about females not having the same equal rights as men about 100 years ago? this has changed.

    The LGBT community still puts up with crap to this day. It's still illegal in some countries.
    Shows how much you know about history because I can't believe how the straight people in this thread are trying to justify this stupid hashtag.
    I mean.. I'm gay as they come, and I can't believe how upset some of the gay people in thread are getting so upset over a stupid hashtag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sahlamuhla View Post
    Not physically but we re getting to the point where you are denied of voicing your opinion because of it.
    Are you sure that wasn't because the opinion was stupid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xada View Post
    If anything was easy, we'd figure it out by now. I'm not against a hetero day merely for balance. I mean, even if it was a thing, I can't see anyone really go out with floats and shit in a parade, maybe a good excuse to eat out, but really nothing more than that.
    Now that you say that..
    Don't we have that already?
    Father's day, and Mother's day just popped right into my mind.

    I know, gay people can now slowly but steady adopt too. But still.. you know what I mean?
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    It's easier for gays to get sex. It's not fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    What's so wrong with that?

    I don't get why it's hard to grasp this. I've been attacked for my sexuality. That brick example, that happened to me when I was still a teen. A kid at school who didn't like gays tried to kill me with a brick. I've been told before that I'm going to hell, that I should die for being gay. That's why I take pride in who I am and fight against that kind of bigotry. I can't remember the last time I heard a white, straight male say they were told the same thing for being who they are.
    Ok that sucks but it seems like you have taken that one incident and projected it onto everyone else as potential brick throwers. The world isn't as bad as that and the good, honest folk are still the majority. I'm 34 and feel that even my generation isnt this bigoted entity let alone the younger generation that has grown up with the internet and all the free information that it brings.

    I really do look forward to the day that we are all just seen as humans not by race or religion or whatever but until then all the attention that is given to these issues just pushes us all back and causes even more division among us.
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    Ahem ... the crux of this thread is sexuality, with a dose of race. There is a reason such threads are banned, and this one should be locked.

    @Darsithis you have a request to lock the thread on record. Don't get drawn in further, it is a no win situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeham View Post
    I've always felt like 'Pride' events are rather silly no matter what they're supposedly celebrating. Often they simply reinforce negative stereotypes or prove to be needlessly divisive. There's exceptions, of course, but most people in the western world are fine with LGBT people. The vocal minority of people who aren't already get a lot of condemnation whenever they speak up.
    I think that at this point in time, you're very right. However, the institutions that hold up our societies are often way way behind the people of those societies. I think that is why pride events are still relevant. Individuals may be totally cool with LGBT people, and even enough of them for us to say "society" is totally cool with them, the laws, the policies, and so on reflect an earlier viewpoint and the inertia to just leave them be needs to be pushed against. Raising awareness is one aspect of that push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugraka View Post
    But if the extreme left is so mainstream why isn't Bernie the nominee? Are you also saying Trump voters are uneducated? Good luck with that m8

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    By teenagers on Tumblr, nobody gives a fuck about them and you shouldn't either. This country will never pass laws that silence your opinion.
    Because historically and even in todays world the left, unlike the right, is very divided. There are the bernie zealots who will vote for bernie even if he stabs their mothers in the back and there are those who are afraid of trumps high %s and have moved on to Hillary who is the "safest" opinion of the 2 based on her name and prior fame.
    On to the trump issue. No I am not calling trump supporters uneducated. Not all of them. But a good % of them are to some degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    Now that you say that..
    Don't we have that already?
    Father's day, and Mother's day just popped right into my mind.

    I know, gay people can now slowly but steady adopt too. But still.. you know what I mean?
    Yeah, wasn't there an outcry to remove Fathers day because of some tumblr bs as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppincaps View Post
    If the people celebrating heterosexuality are being completely genuine and not trying to be funny or to spite gay pride, then sure. Doubt that's the case though. It's spiteful, petty, and tasteless.
    You mean something like having gay parade going out of their way and march through entire muslim community and in front of churches just to spite them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Alright. And please explain to me how people celebrating their heterosexuality on a separate day hurts you in any way shape or form. And if you try to claim that taking pride in being heterosexual is detrimental to people who aren't, then isn't taking pride in being anything else detrimental to heterosexual people? Or is this one of those things where the possibility of a few crazy people means an entire group gets shut down? Because if that's the case your team needs to hurry up and get Milo to stfu...

    Also, what rights are you fighting for in the US that would have prevented the Orlando shooting. Or which rights you lack that prevent you from living at this point.
    Sorry, you misunderstand my point.

    This hashtag was implemented with the sole purpose of ridiculizing pride month. I believe gay pride shouldn't be a thing, but then again the homosexual community face discrimination even today - and I'm not speaking of "microagressions".

    I've been told by a customer (who didn't know I was gay) that if the law was in his power, he'd make it legal to shoot gays on sight.

    A group of people removed me from their circle when I told them I was gay for fear that I'd get a crush on them.

    My old guild told me it was wrong and that I would grow out of it in time and I'd see why it's wrong.

    My mother said that she'd remove us from the family if she ever learnt that one of us (her sons) was gay (gladly, in time, she accepted it).

    These things did not happen in my head. I did not invent them. It just happened. They're real and they're why we need to have public recognition - and it's frustrating, because quite frankly I'd rather just live my life normally than having to fight for stupid things like sexuality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpha View Post
    You mean something like having gay parade going out of their way and march through entire muslim community and in front of churches just to spite them?
    No one ever said all gay people are smart

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    Why is this thread even open, it's expressing a forbidden topic.

    Oh, right.
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    I am ACTUALLY ASKING for them to ban me and relieve me from the misery of this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrianth View Post
    I mean.. I'm gay as they come, and I can't believe how upset some of the gay people in thread are getting so upset over a stupid hashtag.
    Not upset, just puzzled why that guy is trying too hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugraka View Post
    Btw I thought threads on sexuality weren't allowed anymore? Or was that gender?
    I don't really expect any kind of consistency from Darsithis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    No one ever said all gay people are smart
    I think Milo has, but with him, you know he's just trying to get a rise out of some group.
    Your powers are useless on me you silly billy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dezerte View Post
    Are you sure that wasn't because the opinion was stupid?
    Who said the opinion was even voiced?
    While this doesn't have to do with sexuality, in one of the gatherings that people had to mourn for the Orlando victims a BLM (black lives matter) member walked up to the stage beginning her speech with "Most of you will not understand this and have no opinion on it because you are white". The security guards proceeded to escort the gay couple that protested outside of the gathering a few minutes after because they said that she was making this a race issue when they clearly gathered there to mourn the Orlando victims and the BLM speaker exploded in a tantrum. In this case the men might have been gay but they were white so when it comes to the race issue they were the majority.
    Are you sure majorities are being silenced only over stupid opinions? Because this seems pretty legitimate to me and I can totally see how it could apply to a discussion about sexuality as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sahlamuhla View Post
    Because historically and even in todays world the left, unlike the right, is very divided. There are the bernie zealots who will vote for bernie even if he stabs their mothers in the back and there are those who are afraid of trumps high %s and have moved on to Hillary who is the "safest" opinion of the 2 based on her name and prior fame.
    On to the trump issue. No I am not calling trump supporters uneducated. Not all of them. But a good % of them are to some degree.
    Yet you're quick to lump the left all into a single hodgepodge of morons that will say things like "straight opinions don't matter"... which the only people saying that are Tumblr teenagers and extreme left niche websites. If you can find me one mainstream "left" website (and not just a website you disagree with) then I'll concede.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xada View Post
    Yeah, wasn't there an outcry to remove Fathers day because of some tumblr bs as well?
    Was there. really?
    lol

    I guess you find someone for everything to be removed nowadays on the internet.

    But to showcase my logic,
    nothing says hetero more than "hey, I made a child".
    Though, I've to say, we Germans celebrate fathers day very different from the Americans.
    We grab 3 - 4 buddies, put a 30 liter beer keg on a cart, and off we walk into the outdoors, til the keg is empty and the woman has to come and pick our drunk asses up to haul us back home lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Then we should be allowed to have white pride days since white people are targeted in many parts of the world, right? Every single group faces some form of being a second class citizen if they live in the wrong part of the world. Even heterosexuals can be treated as less than if they walk into a bastion of gay pride. I've had it happen to me before where people tried to convince me I was just a homosexual who hadn't had the pleasure yet. If it's wrong to treat homosexuals as though they're just confused about their sexuality why is it OK for homosexuals to treat me as though I'm just a bottom who has yet to come to grips?

    I get that not every homosexual acts that way, but the same is true when it comes to the way some heterosexuals act towards anyone LGBTQ. Those people don't speak for everyone, but they do exist. We should be allowed to have some kind of response to that. If it's some silly people posting #HeteroPride tweets then more power to them. There's an easy way to get rid of the stupid people on twitter. It's called mute.
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    How do you know the motivations behind the hashtag? Were you at some secret meeting I missed the memo for? I'm not saying you're wrong, but unless you have some evidence to back up your position let the dummies have their hashtag.
    It's pretty obvious the tweets are meant to mock than be genuine.

    As for your post, I definitely understand the feeling when someone tells you you're something you're not. I'm sorry someone ever treated you that way. I think it's personally disgusting when gay men chase straight men or tell them they're really gay, but they haven't discovered it yet. The difference is that stuff is on a personal, local level. It's stupid, but you can walk away from a moron who does that to you. I can't walk away from laws engineered to discriminate against me quite so easily.

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