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  1. #1141
    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    But at $200, which would you buy? Cause right now for $200 it's between the GTX 960 vs the RX 480. The GTX 970 is still listed for $300 brand new.
    Where? MSRP is $380 and the cheapest ones I see are still $450.

  2. #1142
    Checking the CF results, it's quite close to GTX1080 and distinctly better than GTX 1070. Looks like there is a problem with power consumption of ref. cards. This should be fixed with custom cards. If AMD publishes good drivers, this could even beat GTX 1080 on CF setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lathais View Post
    Where? MSRP is $380 and the cheapest ones I see are still $450.
    I believe you're thinking of the 1070, not the 970. The cheapest new 970 I can find is $260.

    https://www.amazon.com/Asus-TURBO-GT...&tag=pcpapi-20

  4. #1144
    Quote Originally Posted by Kondik View Post
    Let's be honest - https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/24.html

    4% over 970 and 11% from 980 make it a 970 Competitor, the gap between 970 and 980 wasn't great from the get go hence Ti came, which is 30%.
    But the price was abbysmal for the 15% Performance gap and the deadly price gap, and then the TI Killed them all, yet people still bought them en masse. Yet people still bought it as bread as same as the 1070 & 1080's that are dissapearing from the E-SHOP's like Black Friday deals.

    By the way I sold my 980 for 222 Euros, so I created an artificial market for RX480 !
    Why are you looking at it's performance at 1600x900 resolution. At 1080p the 970 is 5% behind and the 980 10% ahead. However, these cards are obviously 1440p capable and is kinda what they are meant for, so looking at those numbers the 970 falls to 6% behind with the 980 being only 9% better. Yeah, it's competition for the 970, I agree, I was just pointing out that being only 10% or so behind the 980, which is 2 tiers above it, is pretty impressive.

  5. #1145
    People still buy ATi crap? They could never write a single good program or driver, but I'm thankful they still exist so I don't have to pay an even higher price for nVidia.

  6. #1146
    Quote Originally Posted by thatmikeguy View Post
    People still buy ATi crap? They could never write a single good program or driver, but I'm thankful they still exist so I don't have to pay an even higher price for nVidia.
    Nope, noone buys ATi, because ATi no longer exists. Some people do buy AMD Radeon though. Because now that AMD runs Radeon, not ATi, driver quality has improved. Especially with the Crimson Drivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    I believe you're thinking of the 1070, not the 970. The cheapest new 970 I can find is $260.

    https://www.amazon.com/Asus-TURBO-GT...&tag=pcpapi-20
    ah, yes, my mistake.

  7. #1147
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    Checking the CF results, it's quite close to GTX1080 and distinctly better than GTX 1070. Looks like there is a problem with power consumption of ref. cards. This should be fixed with custom cards. If AMD publishes good drivers, this could even beat GTX 1080 on CF setting.


    Results were apples and oranges, even the reviewer said he would rather have a single 1070 than crossfired 480's.

    Not to mention the 440 watt power draw.

  8. #1148
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    Checking the CF results, it's quite close to GTX1080 and distinctly better than GTX 1070. Looks like there is a problem with power consumption of ref. cards. This should be fixed with custom cards. If AMD publishes good drivers, this could even beat GTX 1080 on CF setting.
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    These results are quite different:
    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ssFire/19.html

    It all depends on the game. I mean look at Rise of the Tomb Raider:
    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ssFire/16.html

    It gets worse performance than a single 480. A single 1070 beats it and a single 1080 is nearly double the performance, and this was tested in DX12.

    If you look at The Witcher 3 though:
    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ssFire/17.html

    At least Crossfire is a significant improvement over a single 480, but the 1070 and 1080 still beat it.

    Then here:
    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ssFire/12.html

    Yeah, in GTA:V it is nearly the same as a 1080.


    This is why Dual GPUs are almost never a good idea. Sure, in some games it works great, in others you are better off just turning on card off.

  9. #1149
    I've been agonizing over whether or not to order one of these all morning. It looks like I'll wait a couple more weeks for custom coolers to come out though, and hopefully that also fixes the extra power it's drawing from the mobo.

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    Pricing of these cards in my country is all over the place. Seen them for 269 euro for the 8gb reference up to 319 euro for the same 8gb reference model.

    I'm going to wait for the usual suspects to come out with after market RX 480's before deciding what to do, but I'm definitely not interested in paying more than 300 euros for these cards cause that's a ludicrous price hike compared to what AMD has said is the target price for them.

  11. #1151
    I think it's funny someone at Best Buy fucked up and nobody has caught it yet.

    8gb version for $200 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-rade...&skuId=5446200

    4gb version for $250 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-rade...&skuId=5446220

  12. #1152
    Quote Originally Posted by Lathais View Post
    Why are you looking at it's performance at 1600x900 resolution. At 1080p the 970 is 5% behind and the 980 10% ahead. However, these cards are obviously 1440p capable and is kinda what they are meant for, so looking at those numbers the 970 falls to 6% behind with the 980 being only 9% better. Yeah, it's competition for the 970, I agree, I was just pointing out that being only 10% or so behind the 980, which is 2 tiers above it, is pretty impressive.
    I wouldn't say that the 480 is 1440p capable. Maybe in dx12 optimized games, but in BF4 for example it hits only 45 fps at 1440p.

  13. #1153
    Quote Originally Posted by Wikko View Post
    I wouldn't say that the 480 is 1440p capable. Maybe in dx12 optimized games, but in BF4 for example it hits only 45 fps at 1440p.
    45 FPS on Ultra settings likely. Above 30FPS is fine for most people as well. GTAV it's getting similar, 48FPS. The Witcher 3, 37.7FPS. None of the games do they specify the settings used though, so likely Ultra. If you turn a few useless things down, it's 1440p capable. Seriously though, people call the 970 1440p capable all the time and this is outperforming it at 1440p, so it would be considered 1440p capable as well.

  14. #1154
    Maybe it's a personal opinion but I wouldnt like to buy a new graphics card and play at 30-45 fps on it.

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    Also keep in mind that an OCed RX 480 pulls 100 Watts from the PCI-E Lane, good luck with your motherboard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    People tend to forget the GTX 970 has only 3.5GB of usable memory and you call that good? And by power sucking, you mean second best.
    GTX 970 has 4GB Memory with 500 MB working at slow speed.

  16. #1156
    Quote Originally Posted by Lathais View Post
    These results are quite different:
    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ssFire/19.html

    It all depends on the game. I mean look at Rise of the Tomb Raider:
    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ssFire/16.html

    It gets worse performance than a single 480. A single 1070 beats it and a single 1080 is nearly double the performance, and this was tested in DX12.

    If you look at The Witcher 3 though:
    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ssFire/17.html

    At least Crossfire is a significant improvement over a single 480, but the 1070 and 1080 still beat it.

    Then here:
    http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/A...ssFire/12.html

    Yeah, in GTA:V it is nearly the same as a 1080.


    This is why Dual GPUs are almost never a good idea. Sure, in some games it works great, in others you are better off just turning on card off.
    Thats brutal.

  17. #1157
    Best Buy listed the 8GB version at $199. GG

  18. #1158
    Quote Originally Posted by Bryntrollian View Post
    Best Buy listed the 8GB version at $199. GG
    I think they finally realized their mistake, both GPUs have been removed from their website.

  19. #1159
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    So the card performs exactly as a lot of us expected? for the feature set at the price I would say its done a good job, think OCUK said they have sold (like actual stock in warehouse) 700 units today.

  20. #1160
    Quote Originally Posted by Thorianrage View Post
    So the card performs exactly as a lot of us expected? for the feature set at the price I would say its done a good job, think OCUK said they have sold (like actual stock in warehouse) 700 units today.
    Yep. Despite the terrible cooler design the card offers great performance/price ratio in one of the biggest market segments (less than 350$). I hope sales continue to be good and we see partner boards soon. AMD can use a rise in market share.

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