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    Scarab Lord Zoranon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by tj119 View Post
    Have we begin blaming the Israelis yet?!?
    Well not overtly yet, but some posters have already insinuated that...

    Seriously, how can you negotiate with people who are perfectly capable of stabbing a 13 years old girl while she sleeps?!?
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    someone who disagrees with me is simply wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tj119 View Post
    Have we begin blaming the Israelis yet?!?
    Djalil is here so yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    Well... At least you tried
    Hi there ,dear.
    Good to see you aren't condemning or anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoranon View Post
    Well not overtly yet, but some posters have already insinuated that...

    Seriously, how can you negotiate with people who are perfectly capable of stabbing a 13 years old girl while she sleeps?!?
    Maybe because it wasn't an entire population who did it, but a coward with a knife, you know, an individual? And while that doesn't make the act any less horrible, it is both distasteful and outright despicable to pretend that it is somehow the fault of the entire Palestinian population, just as it is distasteful and dispicable to pretend that similar atrocities comitted by a single Israeli is somehow the fault of all Israeli people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yirrah View Post
    Maybe because it wasn't an entire population who did it, but a coward with a knife, you know, an individual? And while that doesn't make the act any less horrible, it is both distasteful and outright despicable to pretend that it is somehow the fault of the entire Palestinian population, just as it is distasteful and dispicable to pretend that similar atrocities comitted by a single Israeli is somehow the fault of all Israeli people.
    At what point does it stop being just "individuals" and starts being a population?

    cause even though you hear about this particular case in this thread.
    I'm from israel.
    and this happens almost daily.

    this week we had:
    a palastinian woman in a car tried to run over a couple in their 50s.
    a soldier getting stabbed
    Palestinians in Ramallah attacking left-wing nuts with molotov cocktails that went to celebrate Ramadan with them
    and this.

    and the week isn't over yet.

    last week wasn't much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fokstar View Post
    Hi there ,dear.
    Good to see you aren't condemning or anything.
    No of course I condone the stabbing of 13 years old girls.

    ...

    You're not talking to one of yours. Think before you post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notter View Post
    At what point does it stop being just "individuals" and starts being a population?
    Unless every individual attacks you, the only real answer is "at no point". And if it IS an entire population doing this in your mind (which is wrong, but let's let that lie), the sensible question to ask would be "Why do they hate us like the plague, and what can we do to make them stop hating us?", NOT "How can we punish them?" which seems to be the usual response from the Israeli government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knadra View Post
    Djalil is here so yes.
    Never done such a thing lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tijuana View Post
    Well, this story isn't about both sides. Why are you bringing in both sides to a story about one side? Is this some sort of moral equivalency thing?
    Of course it is. They are at war. They have been for years now.

    Or do you think, that manics like this are only on one side of any conflict? It's always the innocent (children) that have to suffer because of this shit.

    What exactly did you expect from me? Or is this the first dead child you have ever seen in the media? No? Okey, so why is it bad, that I'd like for shit like this to stop on both sides?

    inb4 someone calling me a liberal because I don't like dead children.

    (And yes, sorry if I am sane enough to dislike both sides here. Both are religiously motivated and kill each other because of it)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    No of course I condone the stabbing of 13 years old girls.

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    You're not talking to one of yours. Think before you post.
    Apologies if my post offended you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arikan View Post
    You do live in a place where that could happen.
    I meant most likely, I figured I wouldn't have to be so literal.

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    Just another freedom fighter. (check my sig). I do wonder however why these freedom fighters 90%+ of the times pick on little kids, elderly and woman. I guess that what makes them so brave.
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    The people you are calling "terrorists" are in fact "freedom-fighters", no amount of stabbings is going to change this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notter View Post
    usually if "horrible things" happen to them, it's for a reason.
    Wow so this 13 year old girl deserved to be murdered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tj119 View Post
    Have we begin blaming the Israelis yet?!?
    Isnt that Anti-semetism? Israelis are God's chosen people after all..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yirrah View Post
    Unless every individual attacks you, the only real answer is "at no point". And if it IS an entire population doing this in your mind (which is wrong, but let's let that lie), the sensible question to ask would be "Why do they hate us like the plague, and what can we do to make them stop hating us?", NOT "How can we punish them?" which seems to be the usual response from the Israeli government.
    Well using his logic he surely must be questioning why anything bad would happen to Israelis:

    Quote Originally Posted by Notter View Post
    usually if "horrible things" happen to them, it's for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    Wow so this 13 year old girl deserved to be murdered?
    your question makes no sense
    my whole point was that there was no reason to kill her, and he did it anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notter View Post
    your question makes no sense
    my whole point was that there was no reason to kill her, and he did it anyway.
    You said "Usually if 'horrible things' happen to them, it's for a reason."

    Unless you are saying Israelis are somehow different than Palestinians in a human sense?

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    Brave jihadists intentionally targeting small children again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notter View Post
    Palestinians in Ramallah attacking left-wing nuts with molotov cocktails that went to celebrate Ramadan with them
    Did they succeed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    You said "Usually if 'horrible things' happen to them, it's for a reason."

    Unless you are saying Israelis are somehow different than Palestinians in a human sense?
    I'm really having trouble following what you're asking :S
    i'll try to explain what i said to be more clear.

    By horrible things, I consider acts that can be considered as murder.

    so if i can think of an example of such an act done by Israel
    two weeks ago, a palastian youth in a car, was shot by soldiers, because of mistaken identity, since a short time before that, a wanted guy had escaped.
    This was obviously quite a big deal, and people would be put on trial for this.
    So, it's a horrible thing, but there was a reason why it happend.

    but in the case of the Palestinians attacking civilians
    there is no reason. there is no justification. their only intent is to kill jews.

    i hope i made my point clearer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gahmuret View Post
    Did they succeed?
    No, 8 of the group managed to esacpe, and the last one was escorted out by the palastinain police.
    afaik, there were no serious injuries, and one of the cars was set on fire.

    those people are completely delusional thinking they would get treated well just because of their ideology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notter View Post
    I'm really having trouble following what you're asking :S
    i'll try to explain what i said to be more clear.

    By horrible things, I consider acts that can be considered as murder.

    so if i can think of an example of such an act done by Israel
    two weeks ago, a palastian youth in a car, was shot by soldiers, because of mistaken identity, since a short time before that, a wanted guy had escaped.
    This was obviously quite a big deal, and people would be put on trial for this.
    So, it's a horrible thing, but there was a reason why it happend.

    but in the case of the Palestinians attacking civilians
    there is no reason. there is no justification. their only intent is to kill jews.

    i hope i made my point clearer.
    Yes, you are stuck in the "When we do it theres a reason but when they do it, they are murderers" mentality.

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