So how are your games going lately? [megathread]

[Mormolyce]

They had the turrets at Hanamura A, two to the left when coming in to A behind the door and up on the ledge outside the health pack room, one or two to the right, and the rest two near the point itself. D.Va ulti wouldn't have taken out more than two. At which point two more turrets pop up.

Meanwhile, six characters shooting with a gun that does 70 (140 crit) at long range, killing most characters with two headshots which are surprisingly easy to get, or 60-150 shotgun blasts (not sure how those crit) at close range.

I'd love to see an at least average team take down an equally skilled team of six Torbjörns in Hanamura. I can see them possibly getting through A, not sure if they could do much at B.

Against any kind of organised team it's a terrible strat. Torbjorn requires setup time so the minute the first blockade gets broken they're going to be on the back foot the rest of the game and probably lose (unless they swapped to a sensible comp after losing A). Even in quick match players are often able to pull that off (from a PC perspective here anyway).

If two turrets were on the left of the door couldn't Junkrat safely take them out by lobbing bombs through the window?

There are a lot of way to deal with massed turrets.

[Deleted]

Yesterday sucked the fun out of Overwatch for me . 11 losses in a row, completely mismatched games playing with teammates who weren't really teammates at all. I played nearly nothing but Reinhardt or Lucio and even when we were on a payload map and I picked Lucio, the other guys went Genji, Tracer, McCree, Widowmaker and S76.

What really made me yell at my screen was that no form of communication could make them switch to a setup better suited to winning the game. All I got in reply was basically "go fuck yourself" or "i paid as much as you so i play what i like".

I got spawncamped on Gibraltar for the first time in 30 hours of playing.

Either I start playing competitive, which I doubt is going to solve anything, or I start looking for a clan/guild/group to play with. I am not the best player ever, but I'm definitely above average with several of the heroes I cycle through (and I absolutely suck horribly at the majority that I hardly play, like Tracer and McCree). I just want to win, or lose knowing we tried so I can learn from the experience...

[Sky High]

had a match on Hanamura with a defending team with two Tjorb's, I roll as Reinhardt, we cap the first point preatty quick, then proceed to spend the whole match watching my team run into the second point one by one while they get chewed up by turrets stationed on the top left level. I lead several attempts but my back up and heals always seem to peel off right as I try to engage the enemy. one time got such a good push I got PoTG running in and smashing the twin midgets around but of course enemy mercy is there, rezs them, I have no one with me and all my work plus an ult use go out the window. we eventually lose and I invariably hear that one mother fucker who thinks Tjorb is game breaking. oooooo did I want to reach through that screen and yell "GIT GUD!" in that pillock's face.

[Deleted]

Yesterday sucked the fun out of Overwatch for me . 11 losses in a row, completely mismatched games playing with teammates who weren't really teammates at all. I played nearly nothing but Reinhardt or Lucio and even when we were on a payload map and I picked Lucio, the other guys went Genji, Tracer, McCree, Widowmaker and S76.

What really made me yell at my screen was that no form of communication could make them switch to a setup better suited to winning the game. All I got in reply was basically "go fuck yourself" or "i paid as much as you so i play what i like".

I got spawncamped on Gibraltar for the first time in 30 hours of playing.

Either I start playing competitive, which I doubt is going to solve anything, or I start looking for a clan/guild/group to play with. I am not the best player ever, but I'm definitely above average with several of the heroes I cycle through (and I absolutely suck horribly at the majority that I hardly play, like Tracer and McCree). I just want to win, or lose knowing we tried so I can learn from the experience...

This is a comment to you and @Jessicka as well seeing you both ran into the 11 losses.
I played last night and only QM (my mates weren't on, so no ranked for me) and I lost 7 in a row as well followed by 1 win and then me giving up for the night!

The people in QM got A LOT worse since ranked came out, ran into 2 pharah's on my team refusing to swap with 2 soldiers on their team charging their ults like a machine and other stupid stuff.
QM was really really difficult yesterday,especially seeing I had some of the best games of my life (15k healing with Mercy with a few crazy resses, 4 man kill with Reinhardt, all 6 in my zarya ult killing 3, etc).

Maybe all the better people moved on and we are stuck with the scrubs in QM?

[Deleted]

had a match on Hanamura with a defending team with two Tjorb's, I roll as Reinhardt, we cap the first point preatty quick, then proceed to spend the whole match watching my team run into the second point one by one while they get chewed up by turrets stationed on the top left level. I lead several attempts but my back up and heals always seem to peel off right as I try to engage the enemy. one time got such a good push I got PoTG running in and smashing the twin midgets around but of course enemy mercy is there, rezs them, I have no one with me and all my work plus an ult use go out the window. we eventually lose and I invariably hear that one mother fucker who thinks Tjorb is game breaking. oooooo did I want to reach through that screen and yell "GIT GUD!" in that pillock's face.

Trying to convince my team to group up instead of going in 1 by 1 and dying 1 by 1 has proven to be impossible. Every attacking game where the B point is a highly defensible position (Hanamura, Volskaya) you just cannot trickle in as you spawn, yet that's what often happens. The result is that they get owned, swap to a highly mobile flanking hero (Tracer, Genji, Reaper even Hanzo), which puts as at an even bigger disadvantage.

I've spent too many hours on trying to orchestrate a proper push. It's damning.

[Jessicka]

This is a comment to you and @Jessicka as well seeing you both ran into the 11 losses.
I played last night and only QM (my mates weren't on, so no ranked for me) and I lost 7 in a row as well followed by 1 win and then me giving up for the night!

The people in QM got A LOT worse since ranked came out, ran into 2 pharah's on my team refusing to swap with 2 soldiers on their team charging their ults like a machine and other stupid stuff.
QM was really really difficult yesterday,especially seeing I had some of the best games of my life (15k healing with Mercy with a few crazy resses, 4 man kill with Reinhardt, all 6 in my zarya ult killing 3, etc).

Maybe all the better people moved on and we are stuck with the scrubs in QM?

I dunno, it was pretty much the opposite Wednesday night when Competitive opened up; 19 wins to 14, but all really close matches. Last night it was like matching had gone completely out of the window - and I wouldn't even say it was 'because everyone in QM are now scrubs', because the people on the other side were really good, well organised, had decent setups. They were also on average 30 levels or more higher than the players on our side, and that experience was plainly evident right through the team. Including when I was on the winning team, as Mercy, I think they got as far as the objective once, where I got two eliminations because they totally ignored me.

The first couple of losses were just *shrug* shit happens, but by the fifth I was just like wtf is going on? I looked at my team with the level 17 Genji who hadn't played anything else, and other 20s and thirties and we're up against 80s, 90s, 100+s with a couple of level 40s. I know 'level doesn't mean much', but seriously the disparity was fucking brutal.

[Deleted]

This is a comment to you and @Jessicka as well seeing you both ran into the 11 losses.
I played last night and only QM (my mates weren't on, so no ranked for me) and I lost 7 in a row as well followed by 1 win and then me giving up for the night!

The people in QM got A LOT worse since ranked came out, ran into 2 pharah's on my team refusing to swap with 2 soldiers on their team charging their ults like a machine and other stupid stuff.
QM was really really difficult yesterday,especially seeing I had some of the best games of my life (15k healing with Mercy with a few crazy resses, 4 man kill with Reinhardt, all 6 in my zarya ult killing 3, etc).

Maybe all the better people moved on and we are stuck with the scrubs in QM?

Possibly. It's noticeable since the introduction of ranked play that I get paired with less quality teammates, or I just went on a bad spree (which I find hard to believe). I'm currently at 57% win rate, which doesn't mean much I know, but I keep on getting teamed up with lvl 11 Genji with a 21% win rate on that hero, yet they refuse to swap.

Learning the ropes is fine, but trying to main a hero that is not working out in the context of the match is not fine.

[Jessicka]

Trying to convince my team to group up instead of going in 1 by 1 and dying 1 by 1 has proven to be impossible. Every attacking game where the B point is a highly defensible position (Hanamura, Volskaya) you just cannot trickle in as you spawn, yet that's what often happens. The result is that they get owned, swap to a highly mobile flanking hero (Tracer, Genji, Reaper even Hanzo), which puts as at an even bigger disadvantage.

I've spent too many hours on trying to orchestrate a proper push. It's damning.

I actually see the opposite, people switch to immobile defence heroes and snipers, and just kind of sit back and stand off hoping they can kill everyone from range and walk in. The net effect is the same of course, no one goes anywhere, which of course the Defenders are entirely happy with because that's entirely their goal and you lose as a result :/

[Explicit Teemo Nudes]

I've also noticed the drop of good players in QM since ranked came out, but I don't really mind it as I'm not all that myself so now I look more pro :P
The "best" play of the game yesterday was a Reinhardt getting a ress from a Mercy and then immediately charging down one enemy player and himself off the map.
That was the entire play of the game.

[Deleted]

Against any kind of organised team it's a terrible strat. Torbjorn requires setup time so the minute the first blockade gets broken they're going to be on the back foot the rest of the game

It doesn't really require much. The turrets will all be up and ready before the game starts, and the Tors are ready to plop out a new turret in a new spot when their old one starts to get destroyed. I mean, pretty much only bad Torbjörns stand behind their turret fixing it. You position it properly, then position yourself in a crossfire position to kill people who are concentrating on the turret, while making sure you yourself are safe.

There was no "blockade" to get broken there, but rather six turrets all separate, with six Torbjörns hiding behind walls and in new spots to drop new turrets, shooting with their amazing handguns at people trying to get to the A spot.

I'm thinking if the Torbjörn team is just as organized as the "any kind of organized team" you were referring to, it'll be pretty hard to do much. No sense talking about any kind of other situation than equally skilled teams.

[Mordin Solus]

I've also noticed the drop of good players in QM since ranked came out, but I don't really mind it as I'm not all that myself so now I look more pro :P
The "best" play of the game yesterday was a Reinhardt getting a ress from a Mercy and then immediately charging down one enemy player and himself off the map.
That was the entire play of the game.

i got POG like that in numbani defence as Reihn as well. i just stood at the atacking teams right side spawn and once the doors opened i just charged and took 3 of them off the map. was hilarious for every1 to see.

[Sky High]

Trying to convince my team to group up instead of going in 1 by 1 and dying 1 by 1 has proven to be impossible. Every attacking game where the B point is a highly defensible position (Hanamura, Volskaya) you just cannot trickle in as you spawn, yet that's what often happens. The result is that they get owned, swap to a highly mobile flanking hero (Tracer, Genji, Reaper even Hanzo), which puts as at an even bigger disadvantage.

I've spent too many hours on trying to orchestrate a proper push. It's damning.

it has to be the most frustrating thing in the game imo. in a game where its not very hard to figure out if the strategy you're using is working or not you would think anyone over lvl 15 would be able to pick up on it, but noooope. at least in the follow up match my team got so salty we all rolled Tjorb n won super cheap.

[Mormolyce]

It doesn't really require much. The turrets will all be up and ready before the game starts, and the Tors are ready to plop out a new turret in a new spot when their old one starts to get destroyed. I mean, pretty much only bad Torbjörns stand behind their turret fixing it. You position it properly, then position yourself in a crossfire position to kill people who are concentrating on the turret, while making sure you yourself are safe.

There was no "blockade" to get broken there, but rather six turrets all separate, with six Torbjörns hiding behind walls and in new spots to drop new turrets, shooting with their amazing handguns at people trying to get to the A spot.

I'm thinking if the Torbjörn team is just as organized as the "any kind of organized team" you were referring to, it'll be pretty hard to do much. No sense talking about any kind of other situation than equally skilled teams.

Try running a team of 6 Torbjorns. Trust me, you will see its down side VERY quickly.

Your team was just unprepared to deal with that strat.

[Temp name]

Try running a team of 6 Torbjorns. Trust me, you will see its down side VERY quickly.

Your team was just unprepared to deal with that strat.

I ran 5x Torbjörn + something else, think it was Symmetra a week or so back. We got handily destroyed on point A Hanamura (We pretty much all swapped after that)

[DeadmanWalking]

The real trick with turrets is killing the Torb first then the turret with snipes so it can't be replaced easily. 2 D.Va's can ult 6 spread out turrets out off the maps if they time their ults correctly. But without ults a hanzo+widow+pharah are nightmares to 6 torbs. Then you still have 3 players who can take various roles to balance out the group for objectives/killing torbs.

But if people mindlessly feed turrets like lemmings then there is nothing you can do about 6 torbs.

[Daws001]

I came into a losing game last night. Was on attack. I had sniped some turrets like a boss, gave us an opening, popped my Zeny ultimate, LETS GO TEAM! FIGHT! PUSH!

...

They all stayed behind, no one pushed with me, my ulty wore off, I was killed, and we lost the losing game. I've discovered that timid, overly cautious players are worst than high fructose corn syrup. Very frustrating.

[Deleted]

Try running a team of 6 Torbjorns.

Well... This is what I typically can get up to on a Torbjörn;



I say typically, because it's not rare at all. I run Tor on take and holds (which are defense maps really), escorts and of course point defenses, but also in attacks, often getting more kills on the handgun than on the turret, pulling 2-4 medals almost every time. I suck though. I'm barely above average as a player. I mean, if you look at the career averages, they're not quite as high as my best games, mainly because even I can't do much if I'm left with five complete sucky people and bad characters, and, I get games with few seconds left constantly so that probably gives me 0s to the stats, dropping my averages a lot.

However, I still wish I could have six of me in a map, all on Torbjörn.

[Rotted]

Level 51. Top 4000 D.VA in EU. She is by far the most fun character. Close 2nd and 3rd is Tracer and Hanzo.

how do you tell rank?

Anyways Im 54 been playing since day 2 (I play casually) my two friends though, one is prestige 1, level 84 and the other is prestige 2 level 100 something now, usually we win as a three,

Only thing I hate about the game is the cut paste and re colour of legendery skins (pirate torb ones for example) and the new scoring system in ranked is BS. I mean I get the logic, I get why they use that, but that should of been implemented in quick games from day 1. Whats the point of everyone getting used to one system, then changing it?

[Temp name]

how do you tell rank?

MasterOverwatch gives you rankings on heroes. Not sure what it's based on though
Or maybe they removed it. I'm not sure

[Jessicka]

I came into a losing game last night. Was on attack. I had sniped some turrets like a boss, gave us an opening, popped my Zeny ultimate, LETS GO TEAM! FIGHT! PUSH!

...

They all stayed behind, no one pushed with me, my ulty wore off, I was killed, and we lost the losing game. I've discovered that timid, overly cautious players are worst than high fructose corn syrup. Very frustrating.

I've been ranting about these for a couple of weeks now. I rocket boost in, get to the objective, pull their entire team out of their defensive positions expecting the team to mop up behind me. They stay sat at the choke point, sniping and lobbing grenades in.

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MasterOverwatch gives you rankings on heroes. Not sure what it's based on though
Or maybe they removed it. I'm not sure

It was changed once Ranked Play was released.