View Poll Results: Rate Maraad!

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    21 31.82%
  • 9

    16 24.24%
  • 8

    8 12.12%
  • 7

    10 15.15%
  • 6

    4 6.06%
  • 5

    2 3.03%
  • 4

    2 3.03%
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    0 0%
  • 2

    1 1.52%
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  1. #21
    A great character. Definetely deserved to lead his people instead of Velen. A paladin with the actual balls to fight when it's needed,not only talking about the Light.

  2. #22
    I nominate Broxigar

  3. #23
    7/10, really cool but should've had more time in WoD. Gorgrond should've stayed in its original form, following the train tracks and hanging with Maraad.

  4. #24
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    I'm escorting Benedictus to the next level. (However I think we need more Legion characters...)
    There's only PAWAH!

    I second this nomination.
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    (However I think we need more Legion characters...)
    Nominate some? None of them will be polled this season, so no risk in them getting there during Season 2 where everyone is familiar.

  6. #26
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    8/10. Nice character, I also liked him in that story with him going over zealous at one point as well.

    But then, little development in-game even if he had a hero's death.

    I will also nominate Durotan.

  7. #27
    5/10. He was an interesting character that brought a new dynamic to the Draenei, showing that not all of them were willing to forgive. That they could also angry, and bring the retribution part of retribution paladin to the forefront.

    Then they killed him off and oh he learned a last second, extremely rushed lesson about the light before he died. He loses a few points because of wasted potential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowraven View Post
    8/10. Nice character, I also liked him in that story with him going over zealous at one point as well.

    But then, little development in-game even if he had a hero's death.

    I will also nominate Durotan.
    Thats interesting way of looking at it since for me it looked more like generic mentor death.

    Yrel; NUH ! MAH RAD DUN DAI !!!
    M: Look at this from this perspective - witnessing my death....it fills you with DETERMINATION !
    Y: WAHS DA AN ANDERTAIL REFERENCE ?
    M: I guess you can think about it as pun-ishment for my past mistakes.
    Y: .... (in caps lock)

  9. #29
    Is this secondary and fairly shallow character going to be top 5? I like the guy, but I don't like him THAT much.

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    7/10

    Just for being a Draenei with actual personality. Not the best personality maybe, but at least he has one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulwind View Post
    Is this secondary and fairly shallow character going to be top 5? I like the guy, but I don't like him THAT much.
    Don't think he is so far, but why not? It's about him being likeable and relatable to some. Personally I just love him despite being faaaaar from perfect.

  12. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Thats interesting way of looking at it since for me it looked more like generic mentor death.

    Yrel; NUH ! MAH RAD DUN DAI !!!
    M: Look at this from this perspective - witnessing my death....it fills you with DETERMINATION !
    Y: WAHS DA AN ANDERTAIL REFERENCE ?
    M: I guess you can think about it as pun-ishment for my past mistakes.
    Y: .... (in caps lock)
    You know, it actually took me a full minute to understand the first sentence you wrote that Yrel says. I actually had to spell it out loud.
    As for Maraad, I always thought he had a love interest in Yrel, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulwind View Post
    Is this secondary and fairly shallow character going to be top 5? I like the guy, but I don't like him THAT much.
    The issue I saw is that major characters polarize people. Many love them but also many hate them. This ends up lowering them somewhat so few major characters reach the top.

    However, when people are not hit with a character too much and he doesn't do many things that can make you question them, people give them actual notes that are not too low as there isn't much to hate, leading to such characters rising above other bigger characters.

  13. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowraven View Post
    You know, it actually took me a full minute to understand the first sentence you wrote that Yrel says. I actually had to spell it out loud.
    As for Maraad, I always thought he had a love interest in Yrel, no?

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    The issue I saw is that major characters polarize people. Many love them but also many hate them. This ends up lowering them somewhat so few major characters reach the top.

    However, when people are not hit with a character too much and he doesn't do many things that can make you question them, people give them actual notes that are neither too high but neither too low, leading to such characters rising above other bigger characters.
    He wanted to be one with her, in the Light.

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowraven View Post
    You know, it actually took me a full minute to understand the first sentence you wrote that Yrel says. I actually had to spell it out loud.
    As for Maraad, I always thought he had a love interest in Yrel, no?
    That was scrapped mid-beta.
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  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Mehrunes View Post
    That was scrapped mid-beta.
    It feels like a lot of story was scrapped/condensed. For example it seemed in beta like Maraad was going to have an actual character arc of risking going too far in the name of vengeance, but in live, Yrel barely mentions being concerned about Maraad and he has one of two lines in the quest leading up to his death and that's it. And we also know that possible story for arakkoa and shattrath/shadow council/sargerei got scrapped, so they just shoved everything into Hellfire Citadel.

    One the one hand, it sucks for WoD. On the other hand, if it means we get to Legion a month or two earlier than we would have, I can deal with WoD being a bit lacking since I never cared much for the story to start with.

  16. #36
    Anyway, 7/10 from me. A Draenei and a Paladin on top of that that's actually flawed. The events of Orc's war against the Draenei is usually portrayed through the Horde's perspective with regret and all, but when you look at it through Draenei perspective, it's really damn terrifying and one of the darkest chapters of WoW lore. Maraad lived through it and during the culmination of that war could bear no more and wanted to avenge his people if only in a symbolic manner which only resulted in more innocent deaths, which burdened him for the rest of his life. To the point where he volunteered to save Draenei that weren't actually his people. I really like this addition to his story. Maraard's part of Lords of War is definitely the best in my opinion and all around one of the best lore bits of the entire WoD era. Even his adventures during the Med'an period weren't that bad and only showed more of his painful past.

    Though he didn't have enough spotlight and wasn't fleshed out enough. He should have been more of a counterweight to Velen and represent, hm, maybe not vengeful since that would run contrary to Lords of War, but more military oriented and weary of Horde (well, Orcs at least) part of the Draenei. Didn't get enough of that and he was all too "prophet ftw" in Velen's short story. One of the better examples of the fact that with the exception of Khadgar Blizzard can't really develop characters from playable races that aren't the leaders.

    His death was really fucking stupid too. Not only is the death of the mentor a bit stale and Blizzard delivered it in a poor way there since they cut off most of the build up to Maraad and Yrel's relationship during beta, but it resulted in barely any development for Yrel herself. Plus as I already said in Yrel's vote, I dislike that part of their relationship being cut off. It showed more of Maraad's painful past, while allowing him for some consolation in Yrel and saving her this time (and having a sad undertone at the same time in that it's not his Yrel and it's not his people).


    Quote Originally Posted by Florena Emberlin View Post
    It feels like a lot of story was scrapped/condensed. For example it seemed in beta like Maraad was going to have an actual character arc of risking going too far in the name of vengeance, but in live, Yrel barely mentions being concerned about Maraad and he has one of two lines in the quest leading up to his death and that's it. And we also know that possible story for arakkoa and shattrath/shadow council/sargerei got scrapped, so they just shoved everything into Hellfire Citadel.

    One the one hand, it sucks for WoD. On the other hand, if it means we get to Legion a month or two earlier than we would have, I can deal with WoD being a bit lacking since I never cared much for the story to start with.
    Don't even remember what these were anymore. Was the Arakkoa part related to the Apexis? I only recall Cho'gall and the Void as the biggest scrapped thing. Plus Farahlon of course. Maybe some prospects about more Ogre stuff. And from things that were mostly the same throughout the beta I was not a fan for Ner'zhul's resolution. But to be honest, the best things of WoD were unrelated to the Iron Horde and they could have focused more on that. And well, two raid tiers was supposed to shorten the content drought and we still ended with around one year of HFC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowraven View Post
    You know, it actually took me a full minute to understand the first sentence you wrote that Yrel says. I actually had to spell it out loud.
    MAH RAD DUN DAI is way more melodious of "Maraad don't die!" though.

    I mean, ya can't even deny it.

    And I agree with Mehrunes about Maraad's own LoW story, I think too it was the best one of the five. Oh, and the scrapped relationship between Maraad and Yrel, that was a shame too. That alone would have gave a "mature woman" feel to Yrel, as companion of Maraad, while adding an interesting dynamic to the development of both characters. Yeah, people had "eye candy" nightmares (*cough* Tyrande *cough* Aggra) but I think this one was worth the try. I don't think could have been worse than what we got in this universe or any other.
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  18. #38
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    Maraad is one of those likeable characters that one wishes they could get more development, but at the same time can't help but wonder what else they could have added to him without ruining him (see: Jaina.)

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  19. #39
    Ah, forgot my nomination. Going with Varimathras.
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  20. #40
    I give maraad a 9, for the amount of screentime this guy had he was well developed, imo he needed more time, and it should have been him who went on to become exarch over Yrel.
    BTW, did we ever hear about his warlords timeline counterpart?

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