Should prot warriors be given guns in Lesion?

[Deleted]

Hi,

so warriors used to be able to use guns and my question is why cant they anymore. it would make so much more sense


you only need a shield to tank, not a melee weapon.

1) Guns with a shield, can still tank because you have a shield and plate armor to block

2) can still dodge because weapons to not effect that

3) Guns are made of metal like melee weapons used so can still use a gun to parry

4) would eliminate irrelevant moves like heroic throw because you can use guns to pull at distance/ introduce barrage type move pull multitargets

5) more customizasation with guns because alot of weapons have single skins just re coloured.

6) prot warriors main move for aggro is shield slam. you still have a shield.

7) Revenge is not needed , you could give the rage building effect to another move like thunderclap and would not change things.

8) does not change active mitigation moves like shield block/shield barrier, still have a shield and ignore pain is not linked to weapon you have welded.


9 good points, probably more but what do you guys/girls think?

would be cool to get a big change to adapt to i think.

[Deleted]

A pistol and a shield would just be weird, doesn't fit the game in my opinion. They are already forcing Outlaw Rogues into the pistol slinging pirate theme, I wouldn't want any of that to rub off on Warriors.

Besides, having a few mm of steel to parry instead of a tempered steel sword isn't exactly comparable. You'd easily destroy the pistol.

We used to be able to use rifles, boomsticks like Hunters still can. We've never been able to dual wield Shields & Pistols, nor did we ever use a 1 handed gun in WoW history.

[Valech]

Hi,

so warriors used to be able to use guns and my question is why cant they anymore. it would make so much more sense


you only need a shield to tank, not a melee weapon.

1) Guns with a shield, can still tank because you have a shield and plate armor to block

You cannot parry with a fragile mechanical apperatus.

2) can still dodge because weapons to not effect that

Agreed, tho pistol handling is diffrent from fighting with an extension of your arm. Unless we talking equilibrium gun-kata style of movement.

3) Guns are made of metal like melee weapons used so can still use a gun to parry

Guns fitting the wow theme are surely not made of metal. And even if they were made of hypermodern metal, the slightest dent at the wrong place will cause the weapon to explode into bits when used.

4) would eliminate irrelevant moves like heroic throw because you can use guns to pull at distance/ introduce barrage type move pull multitargets

That heroic throw is irrelevant is your opinion, which is fine, but don´t present it as universal fact. In fact, If someone showed me a guy throwing his axe and a guy shooting a gun and then asked me who of those two would be a warrior, I´d say the first.

5) more customizasation with guns because alot of weapons have single skins just re coloured.

If that was true, that many weapons are just recolors, why do you think blizzard would not only make an entirely new line of guns for warriors but also have many diffrent transmogg models to chose from? In fact, I believe there are more SWORD (not speaking other 1handers) transmoggs out there then there are gun transmoggs.

6) prot warriors main move for aggro is shield slam. you still have a shield.

That is a good argument for having a shield Not for having a gun.

7) Revenge is not needed , you could give the rage building effect to another move like thunderclap and would not change things.

Of course you could change the entire mechanic of every class. In fact, blizzard does precisely this every two expansions. But just because you can adjust everything to a certain, forced style of gameplay, it does not mean that it is a good idea or fits the theme.

8) does not change active mitigation moves like shield block/shield barrier, still have a shield and ignore pain is not linked to weapon you have welded.

See point 6.

9 good points, probably more but what do you guys/girls think?

I only count 8. What did I miss?

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To me it appears, that you have a very special picture of how the class should be like in front of your eyes. A warrior using a weapon not assosiated with warriors? How cool would that be! Like a Ninja shooting lasers. Or a mage using a bow. The ninja could still use his flying ninja arts to shoot the laser from hidden places and the mage would surely enchant the arrow to deal more damage! So it fits the theme! Just like the warrior shooting a gun.

.. No. Sorry man, but that doesn´t appeal to me. But I appreciate the inventiveness.

[Deleted]

While I like the idea of a tanky gun class it would require such extensive reworks to make sense that it's not realistic to add guns to Prot. It would have to be a completely new class/spec, e.g Tinker.

[Toppy]

I would say that combining fury and arms into one wouldn't be a bad idea, with a new third spec based as a ranged DPS.

But its not likely to happen. Especially with blizzards intense hatred of giving players options. Having a spec with both a 2 hander option and a duel wielding option may give the devs a collective heart attack.

[Leyl]

Drunk post is drunk.

[Twistedelmo]

As much as i do not agree with this post, I wouldn't mind another Range dps (since every new class we got since Wotlk has been melee) that would compete with hunters for loot. perhaps even being able to dual wield 2x 1h pistols but that is just an idea. Since Rogues and Warriors lost their stat stick if you are the only hunter in the raid All Bows and guns are yours.

[Nihilist74]

Heroic throw and taunt is enough.

[Doomislav]

I believe that problem would be all the stats on guns. It would unbalance warriors.

That said I remember the days of yore when warriors would whip out the old boomstick to pull mobs and packs. It was a more civilized era...

[Ealyssa]

Drunk post is drunk.

I came to the same conclusion. Or superbly stupid.

[Varixdos]

this is just so bad on all levels

[Sylreick]

Lesion, huh. I suppose the demons are creating a lesion on Azeroth with their invasion.

As for OP, Prot warrior using sword/board is like the classic of classics in a fantasy setting. It would be neat to see them using a pistol for a ranged pulling ability, they way outlaw has its own pistol shooting ability. Not a really good choice to fit the class, especially when Blizzard is trying to bring the classes/specs more in line with their fantasy.

[toolsv]

Having a spec with both a 2 hander option and a duel wielding option may give the devs a collective heart attack.

Considering their solution for Windwalker is a passive that makes dual wield and 2h the same* and their solution for Frost DKs was to fumble around for years and then just delete the 2h spec I can't imagine them ever trying to blend Arms and Fury together.

On guns more generally: I was really hankering for a mundane ranged spec with that wasn't pet based and I basically got it with the new Marksmanship, which I don't even think is that bad. The fact that you can be a gnome now and use the guns your race engineers is especially neat. One place I'd love to see guns is to have pistols as Outlaw's offhand. It'd be nice to have your pistol skills use a weapon that doesn't just appear out of nowhere and it'd reinforce Main Gauche's mechanic flavour-wise.

[VaevictusVII]

UM YES!!!!

Good troll is good.

10) gun is metal and metal is good music and warrior like metal music

11) we can blow up enemies in big splatters and show warrior toughness

12) new special moves with guns can get sweet names like Stand Your Ground

can you think of more?!

[Leyl]

UM YES!!!!

Good troll is good.

10) gun is metal and metal is good music and warrior like metal music

11) we can blow up enemies in big splatters and show warrior toughness

12) new special moves with guns can get sweet names like Stand Your Ground

can you think of more?!

Me want gunn with pink colors and pink camo armor. Me hunt deerz.

[Bigbazz]

Have you not seen the guns on my Tauren?

[Beardyface]

You want to put guns in my lesions? Ouch, dude. Leave my infected skin alone.

[Bryntrollian]

Nice protection warrior right here

[Leyl]

All the guns; I agree now. I see his point. Kiss the guns.

[Bigbazz]

All the guns; I agree now. I see his point. Kiss the guns.

Dunno why, reminds me of this.