Church secretary gun advocate mom shoots and kills teen daughters, then is killed.

[Dug]

This is just how we handle things in Texas. High noon rolls around and we have a good ol fashioned stand off over who gets the last slice of pizza

[vaeevictiss]

The more you arm people, the more you'll see these little fights turn deadly.

yet there are more guns in circulation and the crimes with firearms are on a decline.

[TITAN308]

yet there are more guns in circulation and the crimes with firearms are on a decline.

Yes, imagine that, we have roughly 400,000,000 firearms in circulation and yet the streets are not running red with blood.

Its the same old bloody shirt battlecry every time. /rolls eyes across the room.

[Furious Spoon]

The argument that 'You don't need a gun to kill someone!" is stupid. Yeah, you don't need a gun to kill people, it just makes it a whole lot easier. I'm big enough that I could probably kill someone with my bare hands, it would be a whole lot harder than using a gun though.

I understand people like guns, or feel they need them. Just don't make stupid arguments acting like guns aren't one the easiest and most efficient ways to murder people.

[TITAN308]

The argument that 'You don't need a gun to kill someone!" is stupid. Yeah, you don't need a gun to kill people, it just makes it a whole lot easier. I'm big enough that I could probably kill someone with my bare hands, it would be a whole lot harder than using a gun though.

I understand people like guns, or feel they need them. Just don't make stupid arguments acting like guns aren't one the easiest and most efficient ways to murder people.

I don't really think you'll find anyone arguing there efficiency or ease. What people have issue with, at its core, is that it is a stubborn argument that doesn't address the real underlying issues.

Basically it amounts to this...

"Less than 0.0001% of our population uses them to murder people, so lets basically enact more laws that effective 99.9998% of our population that the 0.0001% are not going to give a shit about anyhow."


Unless you straight up ban guns, there will always be evil people doing evil things with them. Even under a full ban, this will continue to some degree. People like to strut out the demonization "well people die for your freedom to own a gun".

Which basically kills the conversation and makes people draw a line in the sand. Hearts and minds and all that jazz.

[Zyster]

The argument that 'You don't need a gun to kill someone!" is stupid. Yeah, you don't need a gun to kill people, it just makes it a whole lot easier. I'm big enough that I could probably kill someone with my bare hands, it would be a whole lot harder than using a gun though.

I understand people like guns, or feel they need them. Just don't make stupid arguments acting like guns aren't one the easiest and most efficient ways to murder people.

You literally just made a stupid argument in the same post you tried saying you don't make stupid arguments.

[Majestic12]

If it had been a muslim shooter this thread would have been 30+ pages. Instead now we get people pulling the "crazy" card and this will be forgotten in a week.
Thanks MMOCHAMP.

[Espe]

The thing about it is, this isn't the first time this has happened. Even recently. I got it confused with another case with almost the same exact details except the mother only had one daughter. Prominent member of the church and outspoken gun advocate, decides on a whim to kill her daughter and herself. I wonder why these aren't isloated incidents...

[zenkai]

If it had been a muslim shooter this thread would have been 30+ pages. Instead now we get people pulling the "crazy" card and this will be forgotten in a week.
Thanks MMOCHAMP.

Because it's about motive, I don't see religion is a reason to even be brought up in this case since it wasn't done for religious reason but yet people like you want to make it about it.

[Bakis]

As dumb as I find US gun laws this is not an argument, its a crazy ass mom(in this case) and her doing the unthinkable.

[Majestic12]

Because it's about motive, I don't see religion is a reason to even be brought up in this case since it wasn't done for religious reason but yet people like you want to make it about it.

The real problem is guys like you who automatically go for religion as soon as the shooter is muslim. The door swings both ways, buddy.

[the game]

I hope the gun serves some serious time for this.

[zenkai]

The real problem is guys like you who automatically go for religion as soon as the shooter is muslim. The door swings both ways, buddy.

You don't know me, I have never say such a thing, if a Muslim did it for religious reason they usually say it and it's reported, how do I even know the religion of any shooter unless it's mentioned in the article and if it's mention there is usually a reason.

[TITAN308]

I am complete surprised this hasn't gotten its own thread on MMO-C. Shocked I tell you.

4 'babies' fatally stabbed in Memphis; mother reportedly charged

[xindralol]

why is it relevant that she was a 'gun advocate'?

way too much liberal propaganda these days ...

I mean that's how we got Obama elected, making bold statements, overemphasizing unimportant facts, and sooner or later someone who doesn't know any better just believes everything they read.

[starlord]

I am complete surprised this hasn't gotten its own thread on MMO-C. Shocked I tell you.

4 'babies' fatally stabbed in Memphis; mother reportedly charged

you dont see a difference between a mother stabbing "children under 5" than shooting teens/near adults? the daughters would likely have been able to defend themselves better against a knife.. or run away, as one tried to do & was shot in the back.

[Emjay18]

At this point, I wanna ban all guns just so I can see what stupid fucking gun grabbers will blame when people are still killing one another and resort to explosives.

Will they finally understand that mental health is a big deal and should be looked into? Or will they say that we need to ban fertilizer and pipes and shit?

In the ghetto, it's because the thugs had it coming.

In rural texas? It must be the crazy pills! Which mental illness? The crazy one!

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way too much liberal propaganda these days ...

Seeing as liberals and their states are the ones who actually pay the bills, you should be a lot nicer to them.

[TITAN308]

you dont see a difference between a mother stabbing "children under 5" than shooting teens/near adults? the daughters would likely have been able to defend themselves better against a knife.. or run away, as one tried to do & was shot in the back.

No I was expecting posts like yours where people getting stabbed to death gets hand waved.

You misunderstand, I am not trying to draw parallels between gun shots and knife stabbings, I am simply pointing out no one gives a shit unless a gun is involved.

[Kelathos]

The gun is targeted as people feel it can be addressed as an avoidable tragedy. The topic stems from the desire to correct an error.

[kail]

No I was expecting posts like yours where people getting stabbed to death gets hand waved.

You misunderstand, I am not trying to draw parallels between gun shots and knife stabbings, I am simply pointing out no one gives a shit unless a gun is involved.

People do give a shit, but why expect anit-gun people to use a story about knife stabbing to advocate gun control?