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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by Slybak View Post
    And there it is.
    That's right. Personal responsibility is a foreign concept to them. They do suffer because of poor life choices.

    Don't wanna get shot? Don't break into someones home.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZGSQXmJPaQ

    See? They never take responsibility even for their own crimes.

    "How was he supposed to go shopping for school clothes?!?!??!?!" It's called.... G E T- A- J O B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    They don't even take responsibility for their crimes yet they claim "We oppressed!!!!!"
    No, you aren't oppressed...you are just collectively dumb and lazy. So what do you do about it? You blame somebody else and continue to do the same dumb/stupid shit year after year...decade after decade with no change in sight. Just more "victimhood" while you continue to commit a disproportionate amount of crime.
    Last edited by Xires; 2016-07-03 at 01:56 PM.

  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by darenyon View Post
    as long as mexico is in the state its in, it will never stop being a problem.
    however, they could cut off the head of the snake and spend all that time and effort going after employers who seek out illegal immigrants. that would certainly be more effective than stopping citizens at random and running searches on their information.
    but that might involve loss of money.
    I do agree that they should go after employers, at the same time though that would just mean many illegal immigrants would resort to crime in order to afford staying in America. It should be noted that the government does in fact have checks and balances on said businesses (albeit not very good one's), Obama himself is part of the reason why businesses often go unchecked though:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...hire-illegals/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slybak View Post
    And there it is.
    Personally responsibility sucks, it's easier to blame others. We get it.

  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by Post View Post
    You gave an anecdote as proof of white privilege existing, I gave an anecdote countering yours. It's pointing out your faulty argument, your anecdote doesn't hold more value than mine.

    I'm going to bed, I'll reply more later.
    but it doesnt counter mine at all... They are very different situations, a fact you keep glossing over. the funny part is you guys trying to justify profiling this whole time, and then trying to deny it when i gave an example of that very thing.
    and there is already ample proof of white privilege out there for those who wish to be educated on the subject.
    Last edited by starlord; 2016-07-03 at 01:54 PM.

  4. #224
    Quote Originally Posted by darenyon View Post
    you act like they are mutually exclusive. just look at that thread about the arab guy who was profiled by some random chick & ended up in the hospital after the police got done with him.
    The California shooting...the neighbors saw their was something off about them but they didn't report it because they didn't want to be seen as "islamaphobic" so they didn't report it...and a lot of people died because of it. In order to properly police...you HAVE to profile. Period.
    How many people died in the Cali shooting because of "feelings"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darenyon View Post
    but it doesnt counter mine at all... They are very different situations, a fact you keep glossing over. the funny part is you guys trying to justify profiling this whole time, and then trying to deny it when i gave an example of that very thing.
    and there is already ample proof of white privelege out there for those who wish to be educated on the subject.
    Can I get hired because of my skin color instead of my qualifications too, please? I would sure like that minority privledge of being hired because of my skin color. I'd also like the privledge to be as hateful, ignorant, and lazy as possible because that way I can blame the fact that my life sucks on the white man...because....why not?

  5. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by RickJamesLich View Post
    Yet you still manage to duck.
    I've repeatedly explained to you why there is absolutely no reason to take what you say seriously. This isn't ducking.

  6. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by Slybak View Post
    I've repeatedly explained to you why there is absolutely no reason to take what you say seriously. This isn't ducking.
    You pretty much implied that my lack of activism means I shouldn't be discussing issues like violence from the black community, and how it relates to racism. This is why our country is not yet ready for an honest discussion on things like racism - because people like you cannot yet handle it.

  7. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by Slybak View Post
    I've repeatedly explained to you why there is absolutely no reason to take what you say seriously. This isn't ducking.
    Yes, you are ducking. Just like the BLM "movement" that is ducking the real reasons why they are where they are. It all starts at home.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7hFxcy40vk

    This is why^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    See the children in the video? The next generation of criminals right there. Why? Thank mommy...although I'm sure they will blame the white man....just like mommy.

  8. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by Xires View Post
    The California shooting...the neighbors saw their was something off about them but they didn't report it because they didn't want to be seen as "islamaphobic" so they didn't report it...and a lot of people died because of it. In order to properly police...you HAVE to profile. Period.
    How many people died in the Cali shooting because of "feelings"?
    you could make this argument for anything... after any big crime happens people say "oh i thought there was something wrong, yea totally should have seen it coming."

    Can I get hired because of my skin color instead of my qualifications too, please? I would sure like that minority privledge of being hired because of my skin color. I'd also like the privledge to be as hateful, ignorant, and lazy as possible because that way I can blame the fact that my life sucks on the white man...because....why not?
    arent you already blaming other people? and fact is, people with more white sounding names are more likely to get hired in a blind test, so... enjoy.

  9. #229
    I gotta ask, when did this whole "privilege" concept come around? What ever happened to minding your own fucking business, and you know teaching useful concepts to students? Better yet how come people don't realize that everyone's starting point in life is different? We don't start off equally and are born into different situations regardless of skin color, having white skin doesn't grant one a successful path in life. There's a fuckton more than just skin color that plays into where people go in life, it just blows my mind this whole "privilege" concept has such a backing.

  10. #230
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    sounds like a good school.
    Always had a problem with certain subjects from schools and college (in my country that is) but this is getting retardedly out of hand. Neo-liberalism is a sickness that needs to be cured in mental institutes.
    Last edited by mmoc96b81ade63; 2016-07-03 at 02:05 PM.

  11. #231
    Quote Originally Posted by darenyon View Post
    you could make this argument for anything... after any big crime happens people say "oh i thought there was something wrong, yea totally should have seen it coming."


    arent you already blaming other people? and fact is, people with more white sounding names are more likely to get hired in a blind test, so... enjoy.
    Can you PROVE that? Because I've had plenty of company's not hire my "whiteness".
    Maybe I'm more likely to be hired because of my QUALIFICATIONS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iamanerd View Post
    I gotta ask, when did this whole "privilege" concept come around? What ever happened to minding your own fucking business, and you know teaching useful concepts to students? Better yet how come people don't realize that everyone's starting point in life is different? We don't start off equally and are born into different situations regardless of skin color, having white skin doesn't grant one a successful path in life. There's a fuckton more than just skin color that plays into where people go in life, it just blows my mind this whole "privilege" concept has such a backing.
    The "white privledge" came around when Liberals got put into power. It all started about 2009...wonder what else started in 2009...hmmm...who is President again? The reason for the whole concept is so that minority's could do/say racist things and not be held accountable for it. Blacks go around playing the knockout game on white people to include against women..but when I white guy finally does it and it is to a black man...it was a hate crime rather then just a regular crime that all the black kids were charged with. "white privledge" is their so minority's have an excuse to be hateful and get away with it "legally".

  12. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by Iamanerd View Post
    I gotta ask, when did this whole "privilege" concept come around? What ever happened to minding your own fucking business, and you know teaching useful concepts to students? Better yet how come people don't realize that everyone's starting point in life is different? We don't start off equally and are born into different situations regardless of skin color, having white skin doesn't grant one a successful path in life. There's a fuckton more than just skin color that plays into where people go in life, it just blows my mind this whole "privilege" concept has such a backing.
    it came about because people assume that if you give help to people that need it, you are taking something away from people who don't. kind of dumb, i know.

  13. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by Xires View Post
    Personal responsibility is a foreign concept to them. They do suffer because of poor life choices.
    "Poor life choices" is not a sufficient explanation for the fact that black people are suspected more often of committing crimes and then disproportionately arrested, prosecuted, convicted, and sentenced. It's not a sufficient explanation for the fact that black minors are disproportionately disciplined at school, and are disproportionately sent to juvenile detention (or tried as adults) over infractions for which white minors get probation. It's not a sufficient explanation for the fact that black applicants for everything from employment to health and financial services are disproportionately rejected while white applicants with similar (or worse) histories are not.

    A black job applicant without a criminal record has the same chance of getting a callback for a job interview as a white applicant with a criminal record. A black household close to median income is statistically likely to have less household wealth than a white household with a lower income. "Poor life choices" doesn't explain that. "Poor life choices" doesn't explain why Eric Garner, Sandra Bland, Oscar Grant, and countless others are dead, nor why their deaths were necessary. "Poor life choices" doesn't explain why the predominantly black suburb of Flint, Michigan was drinking poisoned water for over a fucking year.

    "Racism is just socialism for mediocre white people," however, is a perfectly adequate explanation for the rhetorical choices you're making.

  14. #234
    Quote Originally Posted by Xires View Post
    Can you PROVE that? Because I've had plenty of company's not hire my "whiteness".
    Maybe I'm more likely to be hired because of my QUALIFICATIONS.
    To see how the credentials of job applicants affect discrimination, the authors varied the quality of the resumes they used in response to a given ad. Higher quality applicants were given a little more labor market experience on average and fewer holes in their employment history. They were also portrayed as more likely to have an email address, to have completed some certification degree, to possess foreign language skills, or to have been awarded some honors.

    In total, the authors responded to more than 1,300 employment ads in the sales, administrative support, clerical, and customer services job categories, sending out nearly 5,000 resumes. The ads covered a large spectrum of job quality, from cashier work at retail establishments and clerical work in a mailroom to office and sales management positions.

    The results indicate large racial differences in callback rates to a phone line with a voice mailbox attached and a message recorded by someone of the appropriate race and gender. Job applicants with white names needed to send about 10 resumes to get one callback; those with African-American names needed to send around 15 resumes to get one callback. This would suggest either employer prejudice or employer perception that race signals lower productivity.
    http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html

  15. #235
    Quote Originally Posted by May90 View Post
    Lol @ people on these forums who genuinely believe that we are all equal, no one is discriminated, no one is disadvantaged. Some nice fairy world you must be living in, take me there!

    Sure, the school's narrative is ridiculous, and I think its head should be deposed for twisting an educational program in such a way. But you folks here are just the opposite side of denying reality. You seriously think that being born Black in the US gives a person exactly the same chance to succeed as being born White or Asian? Sure, the situation has improved significantly since 60-s, but there are still lots of problems.

    I find the term "privileged" ridiculous though. "Disadvantaged" is better.
    All those "problems" stem from HOME. Nothing government or the white man can do about that. That is up to the PEOPLE with the so called "disadvantage".
    Being WHITE doesn't give you an advantage...having MONEY does.

  16. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    No I don't. Because I don't really care what you think about it, and I have to get ready to do more important things.
    Your hand couldn't wait 5 more minutes for your "date"?

  17. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by DesMephisto View Post
    So what is this white privileged people keep talking about? I've been white my entire life. I've gone to the same shitty public school, gone to the same shitty juvenile hall, gone to the same shitty continuation school, been supported by the same single parent, went to community college and used all this shitty shit to get into a university after spending 6 years at community college.

    So when people say white privilege, I'm over here like THE FUCK YOU TALKING BOUT. Cause I sure as fuck aint experienced it.
    It's what happens when ignorant people believe ignorant things and then use it as justification for their own hate. They are jealous of the people that "have" because they themselves "have not" but what they don't understand is that in order to "have" you have to WORK for it and when/if you fail you should try try again....instead of sitting back..giving up and blaming "whitey".

  18. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by Xires View Post
    Being WHITE doesn't give you an advantage...having MONEY does.
    That depends. A black man is more likely to be stopped by the police than a white, even if they appear to be of similar financial status. They are less trusted in general than whites, because of stereotypes which correlate skin color with crime etc.
    Mother pus bucket!

  19. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by darenyon View Post
    it came about because people assume that if you give help to people that need it, you are taking something away from people who don't. kind of dumb, i know.
    I just don't understand why skin color comes into the equation, shouldn't we help all who need regardless of their skin color?

  20. #240
    Private schools need to be regulated for education standards.
    While you live, shine / Have no grief at all / Life exists only for a short while / And time demands its toll.

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