UKIP leader Nigel Farage stands down (again)

[AeneasBK]

How exactly does this mean we need to take in MORE drains on society that statistically also bring more crime over?

I think it was something to do with making it easier for the however many millions of Brits are working in Europe to do so...

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I think it was something to do with making it easier for the however many millions of Brits are working in Europe to do so...

And? For the EU's best interests it keeps them.

Here is the big clinche of this, the workers we send out into Europe are not the same uneducated criminals we get shackled with.

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And? For the EU's best interests it keeps them.

Here is the big clinche of this, the workers we send out into Europe are not the same uneducated criminals we get shackled with.

tbf we export our armed robbers to Spain and our semi-retired or high level drug dealers to the Netherlands.

We export most of our doctors that leave the UK to the US rather than the EU while we draw significantly upon EU trained doctors ourselves.

[AeneasBK]

tbf we export our armed robbers to Spain

I was gonna mention this but figured it was probably blown a bit out of proportion....

[Deleted]

I was gonna mention this but figured it was probably blown a bit out of proportion....

Probably is, especially compared to the real issue we have of Eastern European crime rates.

[Sodia]

Just makes me think of the reactions of the Polish people at work, it was glorious. Serves the rat bastards right though.

Like the 5+ million English 2 +10 Inbreds that never work a single day in there life for 3 generations ... Go England soon known as the small shithole on the end of Europe.Haha guys like this one sink there country and still think they have an Empire!! Cute I wonder who's going to pay now for all the British Inbreds on Social that didn't work a single day :P

[Deleted]

Probably is, especially compared to the real issue we have of Eastern European crime rates.

Actually us brits are a bit of a scourge wherever we go. e.g. https://www.cbs.nl/en-gb/news/2015/0...ut-fixed-abode

(When I lived over there I saw the actual numbers broken down by nationality for types of offence. I'll dig it out if I get chance though it is only available in Dutch).

See the last paragraph.

Most frequently registered offences by foreigners

When the figures were analysed, it turned out that many nationalities have their own ‘criminal specialisation’. The Dutch police mainly register Belgians, Germans and the French for drug-related crimes. Among Polish suspects it is mainly shoplifting and drunk driving. Romanians are relatively often suspected of shoplifting and pickpocketing. These are the only two offences that saw a growing number of suspects in recent years. Of all people suspected of pickpocketing in 2013, 40 percent were Romanians and 16 percent Bulgarians. Over 20 percent of Lithuanian suspects are registered by the police for theft from cars and relatively many are suspected of shoplifting. Violence in public is relatively common among the British.

[DrMcNinja]

Just makes me think of the reactions of the Polish people at work, it was glorious. Serves the rat bastards right though.

Ah this one is a funny one. See, I hear this argument in my country all the time: "Fuck the Eastern Europeans stealing our jobs!"

And the irony of it all is that most of the time, people who say this are the lazy-ass folks who feed off welfare while driving a brand new car.

[ati87]

Probably is, especially compared to the real issue we have of Eastern European crime rates.

Really want to argue this?

I googled something and this was the first hit

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...-a6834371.html


Since it's google and you get more then 1 hit on the same topic I can't be bothered to look up more but I saw stuff like this for 2014 and I think their was some stuff destroyed in france recently that didn't just involve Russians.

Don't try to play the moral high ground, at no point in history can the English ever claim the moral high-ground, maybe just WW2.

[Deleted]

See the last paragraph.

way I see it other countries are just a bit too soft. Nothing wrong with a little street tussle.

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Really want to argue this?

I googled something and this was the first hit

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...-a6834371.html


Since it's google and you get more then 1 hit on the same topic I can't be bothered to look up more but I saw stuff like this for 2014 and I think their was some stuff destroyed in france recently that didn't just involve Russians.

Don't try to play the moral high ground, at no point in history can the English ever claim the moral high-ground, maybe just WW2.

Ah yes, because Analogies trump statistics every time.

I agree football hooliganism is bad and wrong.

However, they're not murderers and drug traffickers.

[Mihalik]

like the eu, you wont be missed.

I'm just here to remind you that the entire Brexit movement is and was fueled by Xenophobia, Ignorance, Stupidity and nationalist dipshittery of the elderly.

It's a shitshow and if you are a Brexiter your worth as a citizen to your country is barely above that of a single hairless sheep. By the way...have you shaved your head yet? Beaten up any Polish workers? Maybe threw some verbal abuse the way of a Muslim girl on a bus?

[ati87]

way I see it other countries are just a bit too soft. Nothing wrong with a little street tussle.

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Ah yes, because Analogies trump statistics every time.

I agree football hooliganism is bad and wrong.

However, they're not murderers and drug traffickers.

http://www.theguardian.com/news/data...ed-abroad-2012

Also it seems that most people in your prisons are from the UK themselves and not foreigners.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...leaves-7646037

Then we can talk about this

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...blair-iraq-war
http://uk.businessinsider.com/chilco...y-blair-2016-7

God how violent are the British people and the government they elect, they literal destroyed a country and put it into a state of chaos that it will take decades to recover from if at all.

Again............don't start claim for the moral high-ground when you have non.

[Mihalik]

I'll just let someone more eloquent and composed speak for me on this issue. I don't think I have his...restraint.

[Tinch]

I'm just here to remind you that the entire Brexit movement is and was fueled by Xenophobia, Ignorance, Stupidity and nationalist dipshittery of the elderly.

Wow, who knew you could fit so much hypocrisy into such a small sentence.

[Kronik85]

Except we will have a choice as to what we implement more outside the EU than in it, so to infer that we will have equal sovereignty in or out is a nonsense. Whilst I did not think it mattered all that much, that is my personal view and not everyone shares that viewpoint.

I'm pointing out sovereignty is not such a simple issue as having more or less of it which is why I brought up Norway. Norway is out of the EU yet still has to comply with EU legislation and accept Freedom of Movement. Just because you can negotiate part of your sovereignty away that doesn't make you less sovereign since as we proved by leaving the EU, you can always take it back.

[Kalis]

I have no more social obligation to the person next door or five doors away, I'm which I have little in common (except mutual distaste since they're all mostly the you must trace yourself back hundreds of years of British ancestry with nice British names or go fuck yourself types. Which puts them at odds with my multi ethnic background)than I am a person half the world away who has caused me no harm and more likely have similar views in politics, entertainment and social issues.

You are talking about you, go and ask other people if they feel the same way and you will get very different responses. Most people do not feel the same way as you.

When it comes to those national borders mean squat. And to put it further those people hold higher chance of my loyalty and friendship over someone who happened to be born in same country.

You being an odd bod is not the fault of others.

And Poles are typically more racist than the British, so even your reasons for prefering them over British people are not valid.

It seems it is high time that you get out.

Get out of what?

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I'm pointing out sovereignty is not such a simple issue as having more or less of it which is why I brought up Norway. Norway is out of the EU yet still has to comply with EU legislation and accept Freedom of Movement. Just because you can negotiate part of your sovereignty away that doesn't make you less sovereign since as we proved by leaving the EU, you can always take it back.

And the people chose to take it back.

[Deleted]

I'm just here to remind you that the entire Brexit movement is and was fueled by Xenophobia, Ignorance, Stupidity and nationalist dipshittery of the elderly.

It's a shitshow and if you are a Brexiter your worth as a citizen to your country is barely above that of a single hairless sheep. By the way...have you shaved your head yet? Beaten up any Polish workers? Maybe threw some verbal abuse the way of a Muslim girl on a bus?

I wish the mods would ban you, your constant hypocrisy and immaturity is really annoyingly nauseating

[Kronik85]

And the people chose to take it back.

And what does that have to do with anything? "Because I said so" is not a compelling argument. I want to hear the logical argument for Brexit from someone, it's got to be out there right? Politicians staked their careers to Brexit so there must have been a good reason beyond political point scoring yet after nearly a week of asking for it no one has provided it and nearly every prominent Brexiteer has resigned from positions of influence.

[Deleted]

And what does that have to do with anything? "Because I said so" is not a compelling argument. I want to hear the logical argument for Brexit from someone, it's got to be out there right? Politicians staked their careers to Brexit so there must have been rational beyond political point scoring yet after nearly a week of asking for it no one has provided it and nearly every prominent Brexiteer has resigned from positions of influence.

I already explained why some people voted BREXIT

[Kalis]

And what does that have to do with anything? "Because I said so" is not a compelling argument. I want to hear the logical argument for Brexit from someone, it's got to be out there right? Politicians staked their careers to Brexit so there must have been a good reason beyond political point scoring yet after nearly a week of asking for it no one has provided it and nearly every prominent Brexiteer has resigned from positions of influence.

You said "Just because you can negotiate part of your sovereignty away that doesn't make you less sovereign since as we proved by leaving the EU, you can always take it back."

So you accept that sovereignty was partially handed over to the EU and I pointed out that people chose to take that back.