Legion Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Mekkle]

You know maybe the reason they don't like communicating with the community is after an hour of a decent Q&A session with a guy who probably isn't used to talking to so many people doing a decent job (probably better than I would have in his shoes), is the pages of people

-attacking his hair color
-calling it boring
-calling it lies
-calling it stupid

I wouldn't want to talk with you guys either.

You forgot the Nost spam.

[Qlix]

Theyre down until 3PST (?) at which point the launch stress test will occur.

damn this shit got answered too many times lol

[Saracens]

Theyre down until 3PST (?) at which point the launch stress test will occur.

damn this shit got answered too many times lol

Affirmative.

[emilylorange]

But those are logical responses from kids.

Yes but I've used the phrase 'are you literally 12' so much on this forum I thought maybe I was getting cliche.

[FlemmMinis]

You forgot the Nost spam.

They are still going on with this crap?

[Gnarilex]

Does the "There is one other Artifact variation that is intended to be in later patches that we have already seen" response imply that there will not be any further appearances added throughout the expansion? I was hoping that major patches (or at least raid releases) would include a new model for each artifact. Since they won't be making dozens of new weapon models for any new dungeons and raids, it seems like a reasonable thing to do.

At the very least it means there's one additional skin for each artifact (that we've already seen) coming in 7.1 (or another patch, but probably 7.1). I don't doubt there will be more. Each patch expands upon the story of the world and each class hall, not to mention new dungeons and raids. Plenty of options that could unlock new appearances and color variations.

[emilylorange]

They are still going on with this crap?

I appear to have a mental block that keeps me from seeing flying threads (lol I had to use the find feature even though it's right at the top), yet I'm willing to bet they will remain frontpage basically forever.

[Saracens]

Color variants and new appearances are all well and good. How about we focus on making the artifacts themselves function properly? I know, I know, it's two different teams, blah blah. Make my damn Apocalypse work!

[Saracens]

And it seems to be the same dozen people engaged in an endless virtual screaming match.

Trade chat?

[Paula Deen]

Not really. Let's say for instance in your ideal situation for Paladins. Let's say there was two Artifacts for Damage Paladins to go for. Ashbringer, or a new one that I took out of my asshole. Uther's Hammer. Hell that could go for the Holy version. Since these questlines are so in depth and they want the lore to be extensive, it makes sense there are only so many options. I don't disagree some specs got screwed over BUT it doesn't mean it's somehow *lazy and bullshit*

Its more than SOME. Its ALOT more than SOME. Do you even know what I am talking about anyway? I am talking specifically about appearances not the main artifact itself. The questlines have literally nothing to do with that bit. That statement, if I am to take it to mean the quests have lots of lore about a certain aspect so they aspect should stay.... then the argument falls flat on its face when we get to the Hunter Secret Artifact.

Here is a list of all Skins known to drop off a random boss/mob/dungeon/chest loot table that are supposedly super duper secret:

Blood DK
Vengeance Demon Hunter
Restoration Druid
Guardian Druid
Survival Hunter
Fire Mage
Mistweaver Monk
Windwalker Monk
Holy Paladin
Protection Paladin
Shadow Priest
Assassination Rogue
Elemental Shaman
Enhancement Shaman
Restoration Shaman
Afflication Warlock

Here are ones that require reputations/vendor:

Balance Druid (Also Requires Another Method of Obtaining the Second Half)
Holy Priest (Also Requires a Mob Kill for the Second Half)
Marksmanship Hunter
Beast Mastery Hunter

Here are the ones that are unknown as of today:

Frost DK
Unholy DK
Arcane Mage
Retribution Paladin
Outlaw Rogue
Subtlety Rogue
Demonology Warlock
Destruction Warlock
Protection Paladin

Here are the ones that require more than a boss kill/loot to obtain:

Arms Warrior
Fury Warrior
Discipline Priest
Brewmaster Monk
Feral Druid
Havoc Demon Hunter


Compare the Number looted from a chest/rare/boss to the number that require effort and tell me again it isn't laziness Aeluron. Come on man.

[emilylorange]

And it seems to be the same dozen people engaged in an endless virtual screaming match.

Flying basically is no longer about flying, it's an ideological war.

The last few times I wandered in a thread and stated a neutral opinion suggesting that the arguments have remained the same for literal years with no conclusion, both sides tried to paint me as 'the enemy' and started attacking me for things I didn't say, but that they assumed I believe because I didn't outright agree with their position (I am somehow both a 'Blizzard fanboi' and a 'Blizzard hater', you see).

Which is why it's going on in circles for literal years, why no one listens to them, and why they will continue screaming into eternity. It's like a little piece of timeless hell on earth where people are trapped, hopelessly unaware they are their own jailors, but too loathsome for pity.

Fuck 'em, basically.

[Paula Deen]

You know maybe the reason they don't like communicating with the community is after an hour of a decent Q&A session with a guy who probably isn't used to talking to so many people doing a decent job (probably better than I would have in his shoes), is the pages of people

-attacking his hair color
-calling it boring
-calling it lies
-calling it stupid

I wouldn't want to talk with you guys either.

I actually generally liked this Q/A. Just that one bit that stood out as bullshit.

[rcshaggy]

Yes, it happens during the initial phase of invasion.

Yeah just curious...
The whole Draenor timeline confused me for the stuff for Legion so yeah I kinda blame it for my confusion.


Also too...
South Seas would be great for Legion and such...
Seeing on how Broken Isles are gonna be added.

[emilylorange]

I actually generally liked this Q/A. Just that one bit that stood out as bullshit.

The hunter thing? I've known people who would choose a worse bow over a better gun in a raid because they hated the gun sound effects.

It's only 'bullshit' if you think the game is designed exclusively for people who play like you. It's not. It's designed for ~5 million people with varying interests and desires. So two skins are easy. I don't care.

[Deleted]

Yeah just curious...
The whole Draenor timeline confused me for the stuff for Legion so yeah I kinda blame it for my confusion.


Also too...
South Seas would be great for Legion and such...
Seeing on how Broken Isles are gonna be added.

Wasn't there a recent Q&A where they said they'd had ideas for an ocean-themed expansion with upgradeable player ships?
They already copied the shipyard misison system from AC: Black Flag.

[Shadochi]

Have the baleful tokens from dungeon satchels been updated so that Demon Hunters can use them too?

[Saracens]

Its more than SOME. Its ALOT more than SOME. Do you even know what I am talking about anyway? I am talking specifically about appearances not the main artifact itself. The questlines have literally nothing to do with that bit. That statement, if I am to take it to mean the quests have lots of lore about a certain aspect so they aspect should stay.... then the argument falls flat on its face when we get to the Hunter Secret Artifact.

Here is a list of all Skins known to drop off a random boss/mob/dungeon/chest loot table that are supposedly super duper secret:

Blood DK
Vengeance Demon Hunter
Restoration Druid
Guardian Druid
Survival Hunter
Fire Mage
Mistweaver Monk
Windwalker Monk
Holy Paladin
Protection Paladin
Shadow Priest
Assassination Rogue
Elemental Shaman
Enhancement Shaman
Restoration Shaman
Afflication Warlock

Here are ones that require reputations/vendor:

Balance Druid (Also Requires Another Method of Obtaining the Second Half)
Holy Priest (Also Requires a Mob Kill for the Second Half)
Marksmanship Hunter
Beast Mastery Hunter

Here are the ones that are unknown as of today:

Frost DK
Unholy DK
Arcane Mage
Retribution Paladin
Outlaw Rogue
Subtlety Rogue
Demonology Warlock
Destruction Warlock
Protection Paladin

Here are the ones that require more than a boss kill/loot to obtain:

Arms Warrior
Fury Warrior
Discipline Priest
Brewmaster Monk
Feral Druid
Havoc Demon Hunter


Compare the Number looted from a chest/rare/boss to the number that require effort and tell me again it isn't laziness Aeluron. Come on man.

Jesus christ... that's a bit sad.

[bloodkraven]

Have the baleful tokens from dungeon satchels been updated so that Demon Hunters can use them too?

Yeah they should be now.

[Paula Deen]

The hunter thing? I've known people who would choose a worse bow over a better gun in a raid because they hated the gun sound effects.

It's only 'bullshit' if you think the game is designed exclusively for people who play like you. It's not. It's designed for ~5 million people with varying interests and desires. So two skins are easy. I don't care.

Its waaaay more than two. Its why the explaination is bullshit. Read the post I made previously.

UNRELATED: The new comic is much better (in my opinion) than the last one.

[Gnarilex]

Wasn't there a recent Q&A where they said they'd had ideas for an ocean-themed expansion with upgradeable player ships?
They already copied the shipyard misison system from AC: Black Flag.

Pretty sure you're mistaking fan expansion ideas as the real thing.