PConsole build

[Saphyel]

I want to build something with this requirements..:
* NO optical driver, SO or other useless stuff
* Similar to PS4/XBONE S size or smaller
* Around PS4/XBONE S price so between $400-700


I know some people will say "if you want a ps4, buy one" but the thing is I'm happy with PC, but not with the actual PC size/weight

[the boar]

you wont get a console-size PC for $700. fitting everything into a tiny box makes the price go up, usually. i'll have a go anyway.

edit: not console size, but.. i know there are a few companies selling console-size pc cases, i daren't even look up the price of those.

as always, everyone else is welcome to improve upon this~

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($197.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H170M-ITX/DL Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($87.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.49 @ OutletPC)
Case: Silverstone Sugo SG13B Mini ITX Tower Case ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: AMD RX 480 ($200.00)
Operating System: Windows 10 Home ($26.00)
Total: $698.42
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-06-19 10:48 EDT-0400

[Saphyel]

could you say any of those company pls?
and thanks!

[chazus]

Four $1000 you can get an Alienware X51 which is about console sized... But with worse hardware. $300-500 more for worse hardware... No thanks. If you absolutely wont build it yourself, get the parts and pay someone.

[Mythbredor]

could you say any of those company pls?
and thanks!

Yeah you'll pay out the rear for a prebuilt small PC. Your best bet is to follow boar's mini ITX build it's pretty solid. personally for a mini ITX i'd go with a SSD and a HDD but an HDD is fine. But yeah i'd never buy a prebuilt mini pc.

[Saphyel]

what do you think about this one? overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-tech-labs-skylake-z170-micro-atx-gaming-pc-configurator-fs-005-tl.html#t=d,g9h,j3k2o3

[Evildeffy]

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/X...mcanode202aaus

That's as close as it gets to console sized for a good price.
Also no 3,5" HDDs in this thing so only SSDs or 2,5" HDDs.

Here's the cheapest list I could come up with that won't disgrace itself with performance.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£99.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Motherboard: ASRock H170M-ITX/DL Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (£88.56 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Crucial 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£25.99 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Hitachi Travelstar 1TB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£51.96 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card (£239.95 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Node 202 HTPC Case w/450W Power Supply (£109.22 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £615.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-04 22:55 BST+0100

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-6320 3.9GHz Dual-Core Processor (£132.99 @ Ebuyer)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC12LS_BK 53.3 CFM CPU Cooler (£37.62 @ More Computers)
Motherboard: Asus Z170I PRO GAMING Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard (£127.98 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (£64.98 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Crucial MX200 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£119.81 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Hitachi Travelstar 1TB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£51.96 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card (£239.95 @ CCL Computers)
Case: Fractal Design Node 202 HTPC Case w/450W Power Supply (£109.22 @ CCL Computers)
Case Fan: CRYORIG QF120 Balance 49.0 CFM 120mm Fan (£5.49 @ Ebuyer)
Case Fan: CRYORIG QF120 Balance 49.0 CFM 120mm Fan (£5.49 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £895.49
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-04 23:04 BST+0100

This would be my pick for that sort of thing.
I purposely kept it at an i3 even though it's not far off an i5 for that price due to form factor and heat generation.
This is with an SSD and a HDD as well for both storage and speed but you can drop either of them.
RAM @ 3000MHz to kill off any limit the i3 has with games and throughput (i3 actually benefits the most from faster RAM over the i5/i7 due to it being a dual core)

Expensive but you want PConsole ... this is it.

[Deleted]

I'd say close to 1k would do the trick:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($215.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG C1 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($64.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($113.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($35.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Crucial MX200 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.00 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 480 8GB Video Card ($287.50 @ B&H)
Case: Silverstone RVZ01B Mini ITX Desktop Case ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Gold 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($87.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1024.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-04 19:31 EDT-0400

[Saphyel]

Kostattoo thanks!!! why radeon?

[Evildeffy]

Kostattoo thanks!!! why radeon?

Cool beans, Kost gets a thanks but not me -.-

[Lathais]

Kostattoo thanks!!! why radeon?

Because, in the price range you are looking at, nothing beats the RX 480.

[Saphyel]

Evildeffy you have my love <3 and thanks!

[Cows For Life]

Why the love for the Node 202 case? It's a case that's been reviewed to perform terribly when it comes to thermals thanks to design compromises to save a couple of liters of space. The RVZ series mentioned above (or FTZ if you're rich) are similar form factor but will keep your components much cooler and likely with less noise.

[Evildeffy]

Why the love for the Node 202 case? It's a case that's been reviewed to perform terribly when it comes to thermals thanks to design compromises to save a couple of liters of space. The RVZ series mentioned above (or FTZ if you're rich) are similar form factor but will keep your components much cooler and likely with less noise.

Have you seen the OP's budget as well as desires?

The Node 202 is also not as bad as how you make it out to be if you have the proper components.

[Cows For Life]

Have you seen the OP's budget as well as desires?

The Node 202 is also not as bad as how you make it out to be if you have the proper components.

Yes it is that bad and the RVZ01 is actually cheaper than the Node 202 on Amazon UK and in the US as well. The only point for the 202 is the cleaner design.

[Evildeffy]

Yes it is that bad and the RVZ01 is actually cheaper than the Node 202 on Amazon UK and in the US as well. The only point for the 202 is the cleaner design.

Find me an RVZ01 with a good 450W SFX PSU for the same price.
Second then do the same for size.

Third: No it really isn't that bad, clearly you've never built in it which I have.
It is not nearly as bad as you make it out to be.

[Cows For Life]

Find me an RVZ01 with a good 450W SFX PSU for the same price.
Second then do the same for size.

Third: No it really isn't that bad, clearly you've never built in it which I have.
It is not nearly as bad as you make it out to be.

Difference seems to be 10 quid if you bought something like the Silverstone 450W SFX but I suppose all of the reviews and forum posts I see elsewhere about hot running 202's are from people that never built one? There's only so much you can do to work around limitations like 56mm CPU cooler height limits and case fan thickness limits. The fact a lowly GTX 750 gets up to 80C under gaming load is frightening (per SPCR) and tells me this is more for HTPC than gaming. I have a GTX 750 Ti stuffed into the barely larger SG13 (one of the cases recommended by someone else above) and it barely gets above 60C during games.

[Evildeffy]

Difference seems to be 10 quid if you bought something like the Silverstone 450W SFX but I suppose all of the reviews and forum posts I see elsewhere about hot running 202's are from people that never built one? There's only so much you can do to work around limitations like 56mm CPU cooler height limits and case fan thickness limits. The fact a lowly GTX 750 gets up to 80C under gaming load is frightening (per SPCR) and tells me this is more for HTPC than gaming. I have a GTX 750 Ti stuffed into the barely larger SG13 (one of the cases recommended by someone else above) and it barely gets above 60C during games.

You drop in a proper cooler (Cryorig C7, Noctua NH-L9i or something) and you're good.
Drop in 2 fans for intake and you'll have 0 problems as well.

I've built 1 with a GTX 970 (IIRC it was the GigaByte WF OC edition) and it didn't get above 65°C.
Also 80°C for GFX cards is nothing to be worried about in such cases, they can easily take up to 95 - 100°C.

And "barely larger" is quite an understatement as that's a shoebox and not a flat design like the Node 202, so it can never reach it's efficiency.
The build will work without any issue and will not overheat.

Also may I remind you of the following:

I want to build something with this requirements..:
* NO optical driver, SO or other useless stuff
* Similar to PS4/XBONE S size or smaller
* Around PS4/XBONE S price so between $400-700

I know some people will say "if you want a ps4, buy one" but the thing is I'm happy with PC, but not with the actual PC size/weight

Anyhow since I'm off to Greece tomorrow I must prepare for a 2.500Km drive so I bid you good night and enjoy the argumentation.

[Saphyel]

Evildeffy Take care with the Turkey thing... and thanks guys I'm taking notes of everything
BTW why 2 case fans & cpu cooler? It'll do a lot of noise..

[Thunderball]

Evildeffy Take care with the Turkey thing... and thanks guys I'm taking notes of everything
BTW why 2 case fans & cpu cooler? It'll do a lot of noise..

Proper CPU cooler will reduce noise not increase it. Intake fans are essential for improving airflow and reducing dust accumulation.