2 Cops shot in Dallas at protest

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

Police brutality isn't a race issue. This is such bullshit. Whites get killed by cops just as much as blacks or other minorities. BLM just chooses to push their narrative to make a bigger deal out of blacks being killed by cops.

If you're telling people that most police brutality of late isn't over race then you are fully delusional, ignorant and guilty.

[cymraeg13]

There is an exceedingly strong link between inequality and number of murders committed but even then the US is off the charts. A lot of it I think arises from the US's "dog eat dog" and "screw you I got mine" mentality (as perfectly illustrated in the Hillary college plan thread) in combination with ease of access to weaponry. That results in lots of citizens (but by no means all) who have little empathy with others and who have an incredibly easy way to kill others on hand - a deadly combination.

Cherry picked data. Where is Brazil? Where is Mexico? Where is the socialist paradise Venezuela? What - only first world countries count?

[eschatological]

Who's this Joe Walsh person?

He used to serve in our Congress, and is now a conservative talk show host.

[Xada]

You haven't been in this thread long, have you?

I honestly think it's hyperbole. Bigots one of those words that people understand just enough to use it against anyone, just like fascist.

[Shinra1]

Why haven't they revealed the identities of the assailants? Could it possibly have anything to do with the shooters not being black? I suspect this incident was orchestrated by someone who wanted to ruin race relations, I mean who else would shoot cops at a rally when everyone is on edge.

[stomination]

There have been 99.999% innocent residents in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They were just living their lives under terrible circumstances and dictatorship.

Oh well, they were japanese. Makes it easier to sell not one but two atom bombs, aka genocide, to the population.

Thinking in the same way, cops are cops. Innocent or not, you hit the exactly the same "right" declared group.


I don't know how many people got shot by the police in the US over the last year. I assume there have been too many and that's why I understand that at one point people have enough waiting for real change in this matter, especially because IT IS THE POLICE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT and they decide to take care about this issue themselves, creating a sign - telling the world that they're there, and they will not bear the delaying tactics of the government decision-makers anymore and start fighting fire with fire.

Lots of ignorance in that post.

[cymraeg13]

If you're telling people that most police brutality of late isn't over race then you are fully delusional, ignorant and guilty.

If you're automatically claiming it is then you are fully delusional, ignorant, and guilty. What evidence do you have that race was the reason for the shootings? Make your case.

[cymraeg13]

Is the legal gun owner with a valid concealed carry license obliged to tell the cop that he is armed?

I would think so. In Texas you must inform the officer that you are a CCL holder whether armed or not.

[Tinykong]

Is the legal gun owner with a valid concealed carry license obliged to tell the cop that he is armed?

Whether you're legally obligated or not it's probably a good idea to do so.

"Hi Officer, just so you know, I have a concealed carry on my right hip."

Then you literally just sit there and do nothing else but keep your hands on the wheel or dashboard of the car. The cop will probably tell you to step out of the car so you can be disarmed, conduct the stop, and if they decide to send you on your way, give you back the firearm and send you on your way.

At no time should you ever reach for anything.

We don't have video of the actual traffic stop in the recent shooting, just video of the guy having already been shot. We don't know what he did.

[Beefsquatch]

Why haven't they revealed the identities of the assailants? Could it possibly have anything to do with the shooters not being black? I suspect this incident was orchestrated by someone who wanted to ruin race relations, I mean who else would shoot cops at a rally when everyone is on edge.

They did reveal it. It's some black guy that was in the Army. He was trained, and in the video I mentioned it shows. His name was Micah Xavier Johnson

[Stormdash]

Is the legal gun owner with a valid concealed carry license obliged to tell the cop that he is armed?

Typically not, although I don't know the law in every state, and there is a lot of debate in the gun-owning community about whether it's a conversation you should go looking for, but I fall on the side that you'd rather not have an officer surprised by a gun.

Personally, if I was carrying on-body and the police interaction was going in any direction that would involve me being patted down, or me having to reach around my own body in a way that would bring my hand close to the firearm, I would disclose it then. If I was carrying in the car but off my person, I'd mention it if I was instructed to do anything, again, that might bring the gun into view or my hand near it before I complied.

It's frustrating because all indications are Bastile was as conscientious as he could have been about his weapon and informing the police, and was still shot for obeying instructions as best as he was able. I'm not as upset, frankly, about the Sterling shooting because if he was pocket carrying, there has already been at least one firearm instructor who has pointed out he could still have been a threat to fire on police unless he was already cuffed behind his back.

[alexw]

Police brutality isn't a race issue. This is such bullshit. Whites get killed by cops just as much as blacks or other minorities. BLM just chooses to push their narrative to make a bigger deal out of blacks being killed by cops.

The shootings of unarmed blacks by cops is being used as a proxy for the whole black-police-prison issue, and how they as a community have been singled out and affected as a result. IMO they have a right to be angry about it.

Here is one example. Remember the crack cocaine epidemic of the 1990's? Now what was the wider response to it? Contrast that with the response to the cocaine epidemic now hitting white communities. Notice the difference? If people don't think there are issues with systemic racism then explain the difference in the response.

[Shinra1]

They did reveal it. It's some black guy that was in the Army. He was trained, and in the video I mentioned it shows. His name was Micah Xavier Johnson

No not that guy but the rest. Are the other two white?


I suspect this will get swept under the rug like that Donald Trump white shooter who attempted to execute him at a rally. Imagine if that guy was mexican or black could you imagine the outrage? Yet his mum was making excuses for him like he is autistic or been preyed on. I suspect the same treatment if the assailants are white.

[stomination]

If you're telling people that most police brutality of late isn't over race then you are fully delusional, ignorant and guilty.

White deaths double blacks when it comes to cop killings. Even in the unarmed category whites are higher.

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They did reveal it. It's some black guy that was in the Army. He was trained, and in the video I mentioned it shows. His name was Micah Xavier Johnson

I posted pics and source a long time ago too lol.

[Beefsquatch]

No not that guy but the rest. Are the other two white?

Micah told the cops he wanted to kill white cops before they blew his ass up. Safe to assume they are black, and the way they talked about the suspects it seems that's the case.

[Deja Thoris]

Police brutality isn't a race issue. This is such bullshit. Whites get killed by cops just as much as blacks or other minorities. BLM just chooses to push their narrative to make a bigger deal out of blacks being killed by cops.

Actually blacks get killed 2 and 1/3 times more often than white according to this. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/n...s-us-database#

[Sama-81]

Why haven't they revealed the identities of the assailants? Could it possibly have anything to do with the shooters not being black? I suspect this incident was orchestrated by someone who wanted to ruin race relations, I mean who else would shoot cops at a rally when everyone is on edge.

Yeah...I think you're overanalyzing this thing a whole lot indeed. Likely due to you not wanting the perpetrators to be black, plain and simple...not saying that they must be, but your reasoning to come to the conclusion that they likely aren't, is so remarkably contrived that it would make the producers of "Ancient Aliens" give a standing ovation.

[Darkeon]

No not that guy but the rest. Are the other two white?

I've seen threads shut down for less, especially when someone wonders if it's a Muslim based terror attack\sexual assault in countries that had a big influx of refugees; I wonder why this situation is better perceived..

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On topic: It's a shame this happened. Eye for an eye never goes well.

[Alydael]

Why haven't they revealed the identities of the assailants? Could it possibly have anything to do with the shooters not being black? I suspect this incident was orchestrated by someone who wanted to ruin race relations, I mean who else would shoot cops at a rally when everyone is on edge.

I think they are trying to unravel just what happened here. I think this was planned for quite some time. According to witnesses, one of the shooters was dressed in all tactical gear (including a vest I believe). Not sure how fast you can buy these items in Texas, but I imagine it might take at least a couple of weeks. I also think that since it is still in the early parts of the investigation, they might be purposefully holding some info back just in case there are still some more at large.

Preliminary suspicions (that may turn out to be false) are that it was some black power group (so I would imagine the shooters were black) that not only wants to kill cops, but white people in general and this attack was just the start. This might turn out to be wrong, I don't expect to have the whole, true story for a bit.

[Beefsquatch]

Actually blacks get killed 2 and 1/3 times more often than white according to this. http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/n...s-us-database#

And which of the two races commits more crime in the US?