2 Cops shot in Dallas at protest

[petej0]

Err you do realize poverty and a sense of hopelessness strongly predisposes people to use drugs? And that given the history of black people in the united states many have this in spades? Its also not just a "black" thing either. As globalization and automation has destroyed the white working class, drug use has now skyrocketed among those societal groups too.

My point was, regardless of the reason drug laws were created, the drug laws today are not racist.

[alexw]

That gun lobby is a citizen funded group. The funny part is you think it's not what Americans want. Americans want their guns. These things primarily happen in urban areas, people in rural areas don't give a crap about what happens in the inner city, except to SMH at them.

The number of people living in rural areas is falling. The number of people living in urban areas is increasing. Its only a matter of time until the concerns of urbanites overwhelms those of the rurals on the issue of guns.

[Plutarch78]

Well I can't take it seriously anymore. Why don't you make changes to stop these shootings? As long as you can buy an automatic rifle as easy as a cup of coffee, they will continue to happen. Because making loads of money is more important to the government and the NRA than peoples lives. You really think the NRA gives a shit how many people die? They don't care.

You're a foreigner. Your opinion is irrelevant. Go away.

[CptEgo]

Wow you just proved you know nothing but yet you judge
Yeah I just walk down the street and buy guns all the time, no questions asked. LMAO

Yea well maybe not legally, but you can certainly get hold of a gun very easily.

[Post]

Yeah this is a conversation my parents had with me too. Not sure why people are making a big deal out of it - I'm sure almost every parent in the country says something about cops to their kids. You don't treat police like you treat just anyone. They have a gun and a reason to assume that their lives are at risk by definition of being in a position of power and interacting with people who they might have to deliver consequences to.

In fact I'd think the people who resist the cops and get killed are the ones who don't get told to be careful around cops...

Well I can't take it seriously anymore. Why don't you make changes to stop these shootings? As long as you can buy an automatic rifle as easy as a cup of coffee, they will continue to happen. Because making loads of money is more important to the government and the NRA than peoples lives. You really think the NRA gives a shit how many people die? They don't care.

None of this even matters, you think innocent people dying is hilarious. As I said it's very telling. You can't assume the moral high ground when you say shit like that.

Your first comment is your imagination as Newt never said that. Not sure why you think he did.

I didn't say he said that, it was just a side note.

Your second comment. I am sure if polls were done his comments would be supported.

So you're just going to make assumptions.

But if you wish to think your personal experience is the norm go ahead. It's not like you appear to want to hear his message anyway.

I've heard it a million times and I'm just pointing out what I think is wrong with it.

Your third comment is kinda empty posturing of your own.

If you think that you could apply the same comment to everything he said as well.

[zenkai]

Err you do realize poverty and a sense of hopelessness strongly predisposes people to use drugs? And that given the history of black people in the united states many have this in spades? Its also not just a "black" thing either. As globalization and automation has destroyed the white working class, drug use has now skyrocketed among those societal groups too.

If your poor, best thing to do is start an expensive habit that will end up killing you, get you throw in jail and stop you from getting a job. With such great decision making skills, one has to wonder how they bot poor in the first place.

Glad when my family was poor they did none of the above.

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Yea well maybe not legally, but you can certainly get hold of a gun very easily.

I seriously have no idea who to talk to, to get an illegal gun, but I don't run around in criminal circles so that could the the factor.

[IIamaKing]

Well I can't take it seriously anymore. Why don't you make changes to stop these shootings? As long as you can buy an automatic rifle as easy as a cup of coffee, they will continue to happen. Because making loads of money is more important to the government and the NRA than peoples lives. You really think the NRA gives a shit how many people die? They don't care.

Well, you cant...so there is that.

[CptEgo]

You're a foreigner. Your opinion is irrelevant. Go away.

Well, I'm just replying to a thread on a forum that I frequent. If you won't listen to reason, that's your decision. Have fun statistically getting shot by a family member.

[PickleballAce]

Well, you cant...so there is that.

Some people should stick to what they know. Like fashion, or futbol, or prissy little cars or whatever it is.

[Deleted]

Well, you cant...so there is that.

Are automatic weapons restricted in all states? I thought it was the case that civs could only purchase/own semis (and revolvers etc, whatever term they come under) in most situations.

[Merkava]

You do understand what percentage and ratio means, don't you? Did you get past grade-school math, or would you rather promote lies and FUD instead?

From the article (which BTW is only one among many that are easily searched):

So you have 68% of the general population being convicted, with 48% being incarcerated; while for cops the percentage is 33% convicted but a mere 12% incarcerated.

In other words, cops are less than half as likely to be convicted and 4 times less likely to be incarcerated than the general population.

And that's if they even get brought up on charges to begin with, which they often don't. Most "investigations" are meant to find ways to sweep police behavior under the rug.

You can quit lying now.

I'm not lying about anything. You don't know how to read your own links. And you get mad and resort to insults because of it. The article you linked makes no mention of justified killings. They're lumping them all together.

[CptEgo]

Well, you cant...so there is that.

You are focusing on the only thing in that post that is completely irrelevant. My point is that shootings happens every week, so guns must be pretty easy to get hold of, no?

[Plutarch78]

Well, I'm just replying to a thread on a forum that I frequent. If you won't listen to reason, that's your decision. Have fun statistically getting shot by a family member.

For the record, no one in my family owns a gun, but thanks for the heads-up. And in response to your earlier posting about assault rifles; they're already banned in the US. Semi-automatic rifles are legal but very cost prohibitive. We're talking thousands of dollars per rifle and some states have banned them.

What were you saying about reason, foreigner?

[Narwal]

The number of people living in rural areas is falling. The number of people living in urban areas is increasing. Its only a matter of time until the concerns of urbanites overwhelms those of the rurals on the issue of guns.

So if non-gun owners want to take away guns from gun owners, they should put their money where their mouth is. Form an organization and fund it with more money than the NRA gets. If it's so easy to control legislation with lobbyists, then get a lobbyist. If you're not willing to spend money on it, then it must not be that important to you.

[Merkava]

Sure, but this is assuming that charges brought against police have the same value as charges brought against the general population. The types of charges brought against either are surely not the same. There are a lot of confounding variables here that make this kind of analysis obsolete.

He linked to a website earlier that just tallied the number of people killed by police. He fails to see the difference between justified shootings (good things) and non justified shootings. He also doesn't understand that police officers job description dictates that they will have a higher rate of contact with criminals in society, and therefore a higher rate of justified shootings. They're also more likely to get falsely accused as well, for the same reasons.

[Caolela]

Sure, but this is assuming that charges brought against police have the same value as charges brought against the general population. The types of charges brought against either are surely not the same. There are a lot of confounding variables here that make this kind of analysis obsolete.

Yeah, "confounding variables". Otherwise known as grasping for endless excuses to try to dismiss the facts.

Everyone with an IQ greater than a turnip, and their dogs, knows that cops rarely get held to account for their crimes even for blatant criminality caught on video. That's why the police are becoming more and more murderous every day in the U.S. - they have little fear of appropriate consequences.

[Post]

Really? The only talk I ever got was right before my driver's license and my parents said just comply with them. If worst comes to worst, the lawyer would sort it out.

Check your rich, spoiled privilege.

[CptEgo]

For the record, no one in my family owns a gun, but thanks for the heads-up. And in response to your earlier posting about assault rifles; they're already banned in the US. Semi-automatic rifles are legal but very cost prohibitive. We're talking thousands of dollars per rifle and some states have banned them.

What were you saying about reason, foreigner?

I will say that we have certain problems in Europe that you guys don't have, partly because of your gun laws probably. But episodes like this is the downside of your system. Innocent people dying.

[petej0]

You are focusing on the only thing in that post that is completely irrelevant. My point is that shootings happens every week, so guns must be pretty easy to get hold of, no?

Considering you dont need to get a background check and put down a few hundreds to thousands of dollars to cover the cost when you purchase a cup of coffee. Go to a specialized location and not your local "coffee house" I dont think it is as easy.

Shootings happen every week because we have derranged people who want to do eveil things. Since one of these guys who shot up these cops had no criminal record. A Background check would not have stopped this

[Xada]

Police tend to not give a shit what color you are, you give them a reason to be aggressive, they will take it. Some will even bait you into an aggressive response, glad my father told me this because it actually happened to me

Police are told to stay in control of the situation with dominate tones and the use of commands. Yes this does give people the "mightier than thou" attitude, my reference is I do know people who used to be part of the Dallas police department.