Does the Forsaken really have a future?

[Starshade]

After WotLK they should gone. You know - continue their path to afterlife.

And what do you propose happen to all the players playing them, genius?

[Friendlyimmolation]

My opinion - they slowly become who they fought in WotLK. Scourge. Long ago they was Lordaeron's people who was slaughtered by Arthas. Before death of LK revenge was their main goal that helped them to survive. After WotLK they should gone. You know - continue their path to afterlife. Or they need change leader.

Why? That's just as stupid if I said that varian should have stepped down after garrosh was beaten. Many forsaken swore revenge on the LK, doesn't mean the majority ever planned to die again.

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"Appointed?" Sylvanas assumes control and no one challenges her.



There were much better ways to deal with Garrosh. One extreme could have been to ally with the Alliance.

1. By assume control, do you mean where she rallies and saves the horde on broken shore, or where she arrives to the meeting and later is having lorthemar and baine agreeing with her?

2. Suggesting the forsaken would ever join the alliance is a joke I don't need to explain

[RedGamer030]

I'm just saying by what happened before and now...

You mean like the Battle of Undercity where the Alliance assisted the Horde in disposing of Grand Apothecary Putress?

And what do you propose happen to all the players playing them, genius?

Free race and/or faction changes.

[Deleted]

Free race and/or faction changes.

Stop trolling.

[RedGamer030]

Stop trolling.

That is an infraction, Blue Aspect.

But I am completely serious - if Blizzard was ever to remove a race then they should offer free race or faction changes to characters of that race, whichever the player chooses.

[Shibito]

They will be eternal just like saltiness of their haters.

Haha indeed thousands upon thousands of salty alliance kid tears.

[Aquamonkey]

You mean like the Battle of Undercity where the Alliance assisted the Horde in disposing of Grand Apothecary Putress?

Lol. "Assisted". You mean when Varian stormed into UC attempting to claim it for himself when he heard the Horde had lost it?

[Mehrunes]

I highly doubt Anduin would send away the Forsaken without listening to them... And I ma more than sure that the Alliance would see Garrosh and the rest of the Horde a bigger threat than the Forsaken alone.

Anduin totes had the power to send or not send them away in the time period that was actually being discussed, i.e. that of Garrosh' leadership.

You mean like the Battle of Undercity where the Alliance assisted the Horde in disposing of Grand Apothecary Putress?

The Battle for the Undercity where Varian was informed that the Wrathgate was performed by rebels who ousted Sylvanas and her loyalists out of the city and used that as an opportunity to "reclaim" (despite the fact that Alliance has no claim on Lordaeron whatsoever) it for the Alliance, went to Tirisfal without the Horde's knowledge, assaulted it from the tunnel while the Horde was besieging it from the front still unaware of Varian's adventures and after killing the small fry while the Horde was busy fighting a demon lord trying to summon Sargeras declared war on the Horde and tried to kill its Warchief and the ruler of Undercity? That assistance /s

[Daedius]

Nope, they'll decay into dust.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Nope, they'll decay into dust.

As will all races, forsaken will just take longer.

[Maxilian]

You mean like the Battle of Undercity where the Alliance assisted the Horde in disposing of Grand Apothecary Putress?

You say iot like the Alliance went to help the horde, when in reality they went to kill Putress cause of what he have done in Wrathgate and Varian tried to fight Thrall, Sylvanas and company there but Jaina din't give him the chance

[Magnagarde]

The Forsaken have the most certain future out of all the "races". In fact, if they ever get to be at peace, they will "outprocreate" every other race. They are manifested into "adults" as soon as they are raised, they do not need food, air or water and they do not die.

Unless somethign catastrophic happens to them and culls their numbers, their numbers will grow steadily and that spells doom for all of the living races of the Eastern Kingdoms. With every human and elf that dies, a Forsaken is created and I'm not even talking of all the graveyards from all the previous wars that can be used for such a purpose.

[Maxilian]

You mean like the Battle of Undercity where the Alliance assisted the Horde in disposing of Grand Apothecary Putress?

You say it like the alliance went to Undercity to help the horde, when they basically went to get rid of Putress for the incident in the wrath gate and Varian even tried to take the chance to retake Lordaeron.

[Magnagarde]

You say it like the alliance went to Undercity to help the horde, when they basically went to get rid of Putress for the incident in the wrath gate and Varian even tried to take the chance to retake Lordaeron.

Keyword retake.

In the end, they didn't even attempt to do it because an Alliance character influenced it not to happen. Ironically, it wouldn't be wrong if they did it either.

[Maxilian]

Keyword retake.

In the end, they didn't even attempt to do it because an Alliance character influenced it not to happen. Ironically, it wouldn't be wrong if they did it either.

It wouldn't be wrong in their own head, the Horde would not be happy with it and even less the Forsaken (they will be as wrong as anyone else trying to take someone territory by force)

[RedGamer030]

You say iot like the Alliance went to help the horde,

They did though. Undercity was taken back by the Horde because of both the Horde and Alliance forces disposing of the rebel Forsaken group led by Putress and Varimathras. Jaina convinced the Alliance not to take back Lordaeron in the name of the Alliance and therefore the Alliance forces did help take Undercity back for the Horde.

No matter which way you look at it, this is what happened.

[Magnagarde]

It wouldn't be wrong in their own head, the Horde would not be happy with it and even less the Forsaken (they will be as wrong as anyone else trying to take someone territory by force)

It was already taken by force, hence the highlighted retake.

As pointed out above, the Alliance in the end decided not to retake what was taken from them in the first place because one of the major Alliance characters decided it shouldn't be done. They chose not to retake anything, but only help instead.

[Friendlyimmolation]

It was already taken by force, hence the highlighted retake.

As pointed out above, the Alliance in the end decided not to retake what was taken from them in the first place because one of the major Alliance characters decided it shouldn't be done. They chose not to retake anything, but only help instead.

That's some funny ass logic. The alliance went there to take lordaeron and declare war, getting forcibly teleported doesn't make it a "jk just helping"

[Deleted]

The reason the forsaken's lack of procreation became a problem was because Garrosh was sending them into a grueling meatgrinder against the worgen with zero regards for preserving them since he gave less of a shit about the forsaken than he did about trolls.

If wars stopped, they wouldn't have much of a problem with their numbers.

My opinion - they slowly become who they fought in WotLK. Scourge. Long ago they was Lordaeron's people who was slaughtered by Arthas. Before death of LK revenge was their main goal that helped them to survive. After WotLK they should gone. You know - continue their path to afterlife. Or they need change leader.

Sylvanas was obsessed with revenge, but there seems to be plenty of forsaken who are quite happy doing their own thing and / or have gone a bit bonkers. There's not much reason for the forsaken to just give up on existence, at most Sylvanas should have been replaced by someone with less single minded motives.
Like you said, most of them are Lordaeron's people - continuing (un)life in their homeland is as good a motive as ever.

[Deleted]

That is an infraction, Blue Aspect.

But I am completely serious - if Blizzard was ever to remove a race then they should offer free race or faction changes to characters of that race, whichever the player chooses.

Mister. I know that you are an intelligent person. You realize that such a thing would never fly well.