Bernie Sanders Endorses Hillary Clinton for President

[TheMediator]

the whole 'beta males' nonsense

What's nonsense about it? It might be uncomfortable but TRP is real. The issue is the circlejerk and other BS revolving around it where people obsess over convincing themselves they aren't beta, when by nature most people are. Some people are charismatic, fit, and intelligent, getting what they want every step of the way, other people are not and have to bust their butt just to get by. If you've actually seen someone transform and seen how the halo effect began to effectively warp reality around them, you wouldn't call it nonsense.

[Krille]

What's nonsense about it? It might be uncomfortable but TRP is real. The issue is the circlejerk and other BS revolving around it where people obsess over convincing themselves they aren't beta, when by nature most people are. Some people are charismatic, fit, and intelligent, getting what they want every step of the way, other people are not and have to bust their butt just to get by. If you've actually seen someone transform and seen how the halo effect began to effectively warp reality around them, you wouldn't call it nonsense.

People are being called beta for an opinion. That's the nonsense part. The fact that alpha/beta exists is out of question. But i'd wager most of the nerds on this forum are beta males crying for a big daddy to help them succeed in life.

[Macaquerie]

I know there is a difference between the whole 'beta males' nonsense, and flamboyantly gay dudes - but for just a moment I pictured a fabulous city of muscular but submissive mostly-naked and suspiciously-well-oiled dudes. Frankly, I'm surprised SpartaLand isn't a gay adult theme park already

Well homosexuality was definitely widespread in Sparta, beyond this not really being taboo in Greek society anyway, it was promoted among the soldiers as being good for unit cohesion and such. However, your image of the oiled and muscular warriors from the movie is probably wrong, since Spartan soldiers subsisted on a pretty meager diet so they would've had more wiry physiques in general.

[aethermachine]

Bernie led an historical campaign, and while he fought the good fight and lost, he has pushed Clinton and the democrats further left. If Clinton chooses Warren for VP I dont believe Trump will have a chance in hell, Warren would rally a lot of Bernie supporters and prevent them voting 3rd party or Trump.

[Deleted]

Pew Poll showing 85% of Sanders supporters will vote for Clinton.

http://www.people-press.org/2016/07/...n-preferences/

That's 85% of Democrats and "Democratic leaners" who voted, which doesn't include any of the independent Sanders' supporters who were unable to vote because of primary rules. Also, how does the poll handle the whole "Democratic leaner" -thing? Do they simply assign all independents as "Democratic leaners" if they voted for Sanders? Or, did the respondents need to identify as a "Democratic leaner"?

28% of the voting population was Democrat according to the last tally, 27% being Republican, and the rest independent. That 85% may be a very well cherry picked number. Not to mention, how many of the people who voted for Sanders have given up on the process for quite a while now, and couldn't care less about answering a poll?

559 of the total 2245 respondents also used a landline. Remember that the vast, vast majority of Sanders' supporters are young people, who most likely haven't even seen a landline, and I'd be surprised to know how many young people even answer unknown numbers, let alone have the patience or time to answer a Pew poll.

But, hey... It's one poll. Here's another:

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-bu...linton/2284961

Trump leads in Florida. Wasn't that one of those "swing states"?

[Vizardlorde]

Dont care still writing in his name on the ballot.

[dd614]

Bernie cucks out, betrays his followers and supports a candidate who is diametrically opposed to him on so many issues.

[Artarist]

Media names celebrity couple Hillary and Bernie:Hernia.

[aethermachine]

People are being called beta for an opinion. That's the nonsense part. The fact that alpha/beta exists is out of question. But i'd wager most of the nerds on this forum are beta males crying for a big daddy to help them succeed in life.

Alpha/beta exists in definition relating to nonhumans, like wolves. This argument as it relates to humans is a way for someone to believe they are domninant to another.

[Stonecloak]

Nevermind the story. Only the leader of a group can be alpha, when the alpha dies the beta male takes over the leadership and becomes alpha. On this forum it's alpha to be a fat white old man who hates muslims. Seems legit.

The whole Alpha/beta thing is more complex than people think these days. The beta's have been just as important for our species as alphas have been, arguably more. We are extremely complex, intelligent organisms, so it's not exactly like a pack of wolves fighting for dominance.

[Kujako]

Sanders should have run as a third party candidate, but then committed all his delegates to Hillary. That would'a been funny.

[Vanyali]

Alpha/beta exists in definition relating to nonhumans, like wolves. This argument as it relates to humans is a way for someone to believe they are domninant to another.

It doesn't even exist for wolves naturally.

It's a phenomenon that's been observed once, in a high-stress captivity situation where all the wolves were strangers.

[mvaliz]

Bernie cucks out, betrays his followers and supports a candidate who is diametrically opposed to him on so many issues.

Umm... Bernie endorsed Hillary, not Dump. ((Yes, i know you what you meant, and yes - you are wrong))

[Deleted]

Alpha/beta exists in definition relating to nonhumans, like wolves. This argument as it relates to humans is a way for someone to believe they are domninant to another.

Do leaders exist in the human species? Are some humans more of a leader type than others? Will some people be more willing to follow certain other people? Of course. Obviously. That's what an alpha is. Whether a male or a female. Of course humans have alphas and betas. There's no question about that.

[Stonecloak]

It doesn't even exist for wolves naturally.

It's a phenomenon that's been observed once, in a high-stress captivity situation where all the wolves were strangers.

bingo.

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[tankbug]

With very high likelihood, continued wars in the Middle East, and hundreds of thousands, if not millions more displaced people arriving in Europe as asylum seekers.

You should add that on the list, as well.

How would that be different with Trump?

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Bernie cucks out, betrays his followers and supports a candidate who is diametrically opposed to him on so many issues.

With Trump as the alternative, who do you think he would favor?

[Matchles]

Bernie cucks out, betrays his followers and supports a candidate who is diametrically opposed to him on so many issues.

"Diametrically opposed?" You either don't know what that means or don't know Clinton and Sanders' platforms.

[Deleted]

Yeah, Bernie didn't "cuck out", in so much as simply having no choice. If he wants to continue fighting, he has to endorse the DNC candidate, regardless of how bad a candidate she is. He could have said that there's no way he can endorse Hillary, but that would have been the end of his career. Now he gets to push the Democratic party even further left, or at least gets to try.

His supporters, however, are in no way required to follow suit. They can vote for Trump, Stein, write in his name, or stay at home. There's no law, either written or unwritten, that says they have to support Hillary. Especially since everyone has been saying, all along, how Sanders' supporters do not matter in the general election. So if they don't matter, they have absolutely no need to vote for Hillary.

[tankbug]

What's nonsense about it? It might be uncomfortable but TRP is real. The issue is the circlejerk and other BS revolving around it where people obsess over convincing themselves they aren't beta, when by nature most people are. Some people are charismatic, fit, and intelligent, getting what they want every step of the way, other people are not and have to bust their butt just to get by. If you've actually seen someone transform and seen how the halo effect began to effectively warp reality around them, you wouldn't call it nonsense.

Men have different talents, but it's far too complex and dependent on the society for them to be divided into beta and alpha. Those terms have been cheesed into some macho bullshit by a lot of angry, woman-hating rejects that lurk on redpill forums. It's really sad...

[Cthulhu 2020]

Hillary already embraced free college and health care. Honestly it's hilarious seeing the people in here who said they were voting for Bernie for free college and health care, and now that Hillary has supported those two things and Bernie has supported Hillary... they're voting for Trump, or at least say they are. Seems they weren't as ideologically pure as they previously stated, and were just responding to some idiotic dislike for Hillary.