Walking the walk; blm

[Pangean]

Well they soon may be considered a terrorist organization https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...t-organization

Terrorism is defined as "the use of violence and intimidation in pursuit of political aims". This definition is the same definition used to declare ISIS and other groups, as terrorist organizations. Black Lives Matter has earned this title due to its actions in Ferguson, Baltimore, and even at a Bernie Sanders rally, as well as all over the United States and Canada. It is time for the pentagon to be consistent in its actions - and just as they rightfully declared ISIS a terror group, they must declare Black Lives Matter a terror group - on the grounds of principle, integrity, morality, and safety.

This petition reach it's 100,000.

Yeah you aren't helping. It's one group of extremists proving that the other extremists were right. And that's not even going into the silliness of the claims.

[Mad_Murdock]

You don't need to make people uncomfortable to have them listen.

Not always, but sometimes people need to be pushed out of the comfort zones before they care. At some point when it gets enough attention and causes enough problems, then odds go up a solution might work. Again, lets look at the civil rights movement of the 60s has a baseline.

At a certain point, Body cams will be mandatory for all law enforcement officers and the various Govt agencies will be force to make it happen. That would be a great first step.

[Pangean]

You don't need to make people uncomfortable to have them listen.

In many cases that is true. For some not so sure. Again I am not justifying it. Pointing out a possible rationale.

[MasterOfNone]

It indeed may annoy some. Although that may indeed be the point of what they are doing. "You won't listen when we are proper and what not, now listen while we make it a tad uncomfortable". Not saying I agree.

When were they doing it proper? Before Michael brown, how many people do you really think gave a shit about the topic? I do t remember anything significant peaceful of not before that. It's a lot of sensationalism.

[Deleted]

Not always, but sometimes people need to be pushed out of the comfort zones before they care. At some point when it gets enough attention and causes enough problems, then odds go up a solution might work. Again, lets look at the civil rights movement of the 60s has a baseline.

Or people just think they are assholes for being a thorn in everyones side backing various criminals getting killed while confronting police, taking away the issue of real unjustified shootings.

[Symphonic]

2 more pages and no mention of the study hahaha </3

Yep, it falls on deaf ears if it's not going to rile people up.

[Damajin]

I haven't been to one, see I have a job, and responsibilities including a daughter, and a workout schedule to keep.

Black people should be the only people at those rallies anyways, if Black people can't sufficiently mobilize and organize themselves to give voice to their grievances than they don't deserve to be heard. You want to represent your race, your community and your people? Stand on your own and speak your own words and minds.

[Pangean]

Not always, but sometimes people need to be pushed out of the comfort zones before they care. At some point when it gets enough attention and causes enough problems, then odds go up a solution might work. Again, lets look at the civil rights movement of the 60s has a baseline.

At a certain point, Body cams will be mandatory for all law enforcement officers and the various Govt agencies will be force to make it happen. That would be a great first step.

Apparently those body cams have an issue of falling off and not recording anything even before any confrontation. Well in Baton Rouge that is.

But you are right about the 60's protests. Not only civil rights but the the antiwar protests.

[Dadwen]

IMO the best way to get people to listen is entertain them, a plain sign message is boring, certain type of protest just piss others off, but if you can put your message out in a way to can grabs the attention and make them want to watch you have a better chance.

[Aori]

Been happening in my town last couple nights and again noon today, I guess they don't have jobs. They've been blocking main street and its a real pain in the ass. They're very aggressive and hostile.

[Celawien]

Yeah you aren't helping. It's one group of extremists proving that the other extremists were right. And that's not even going into the silliness of the claims.

Facts are facts. What they are and have done are what is considered domestic terrorism in this country. And no I do not want to help a group that only caters to themselves only. What do you think of a group of people that says "Fuck the police. What do we want, dead cops. When do we want it, now". And yes there is a video showing it, look it up. Back the Blue or gtfo.

[chrisfover87]

In many cases that is true. For some not so sure. Again I am not justifying it. Pointing out a possible rationale.

In many cases it is NOT true. I am also just pointing out a possible rationale.

[TheMediator]

Back the Blue or gtfo.

They do enough backing of themselves; they don't really need help from us beyond the tax dollars they're triple-dipping on (paying their salaries + paying them via "civil forfeiture" + heavily subsidizing equipment that was already paid for by the US military and sold at a deep discount to police). Somehow they "still" have budget problems though... however that works.

[Pangean]

When were they doing it proper? Before Michael brown, how many people do you really think gave a shit about the topic? I do t remember anything significant peaceful of not before that. It's a lot of sensationalism.

Are you fucking serious? Their have been protests since the 60's about this. Ignorance is not something to be proudly spewing my friend.

[primalmatter]

Are you fucking serious? Their have been protests since the 60's about this. Ignorance is not something to be proudly spewing my friend.

These are the same kind of people who think grocery stores grow the food they sell.

They are young and do not know the ways of the world yet. Treat them as you would a child. Lenient but firm.

[melodramocracy]

The founding fathers were criminals. Gandhi and his followers were criminals too. Not saying that it is or isn't "right" in this case, because that's hugely subjective, but sometimes breaking the law can be the right thing to do.

It can, but if you're going to seek effectiveness, aiming your disruption at the correct party or parties helps. Impeding traffic for people who have absolutely nothing to do with the situation isn't going to win any friends or empathy.

But, it seems to be human nature to just lash out at the wrong entity. Look at nearly any riot in recent history.

[Stonecloak]

Wow. I'll try and keep my comments in your own style.

Their own neighbourhoods are probably aware of the problem of systemic racism within most if not all of you police forces. They are trying to raise awareness of the issue with others.

As with all such movements going back as far as stuff like the tolpuddle martyrs have incidents of extremism from individuals and small groups from within. You own revolutionary rebels were not exactly always paragons of virtue.

What exactly is it about 'them' that you dislike, apart from the colour of their skin?

I have no problem with any color of skin. These people think it's solely the polices fault, when it's not, it's both sides. Police need to be more strict with their procedures in these areas, and these bad communities need to also stop with crime, you can't just say their black, let them just run a muck. It doesn't work like that.

[Pangean]

Facts are facts. What they are and have done are what is considered domestic terrorism in this country. And no I do not want to help a group that only caters to themselves only. What do you think of a group of people that says "Fuck the police. What do we want, dead cops. When do we want it, now". And yes there is a video showing it, look it up. Back the Blue or gtfo.

I think that anyone trying to claim that BLM is like ISIS is not really interested in facts. I will also state that while speech like that is odious it is still protected by the first amendment. Suggesting that they be labeled terrorists for exercising their rights does nothing but inflame the issue and shows your fundamental lack of understanding of the Constitution. And I will back common sense and choose not to participate in your us vs them nonsense.

[noidentity]

An ambulance had to be dispatched to pick up a child on the I-40 Bridge during the Black Lives Matter protest Sunday night.

Protesters began their march downtown and eventually made their onto the bridge, which caused it to be shut down for several hours. As a result, the child’s parents were stuck on the bridge, and they could not drive the child to Le Bonheur Children’s Hospital.

His parents were worried about his condition and considered it an emergency, so they called an ambulance. Bobby Harrell was the paramedic on that call.

"We were escorted by the Crittenden County Sheriff's Office up the wrong way on the interstate to pick up the child out of the traffic," Harrell told FOX13.

Harrell and his medical team picked up the boy and detoured through West Memphis onto I-55. They eventually made it to the hospital for treatment.

The emergency worker told FOX13 the patient was stable the entire time, but his condition could have gotten worse because the protest delayed the transport.

"When you have someone in dire need of medical attention, I don't know if there is a cause great enough to hinder someone from getting to the hospital to get medical care," Harrell said outside his home in Arkansas.

Harrell told FOX13 he never expects to have a hassle-free run because they have had to deal with accidents on the bridge quite often, but Sunday was a first.

"Every call is different, and you just have to do what you have to do get your patient safely and get them out of harm’s way," Harrell said.

http://www.fox13memphis.com/news/par...-son/396934340

Just a minor inconvenience.

[Pangean]

These are the same kind of people who think grocery stores grow the food they sell.

They are young and do not know the ways of the world yet. Treat them as you would a child. Lenient but firm.

And who is they?