Republicans... what are you doing!?

[Murlocbait]

Without Christianity the U.S. Constitution wouldn't exist.

Christianity has nothing to do with the US Constitution. Nothing says the US is a country under Jesus - the founding fathers used "God" not "Jesus." They believed in a creator because it made sense in terms of a lot of big questions that people didn't understand 2-300 years ago. But they were not beholden to Christian ideology of the time, let along the insanity of the Christian Right.

[Bullarkie]

Well there's this and then there's the whole Donald Trump thing...

[zebreck]

Exactly the GOP establishment are all bluster they never fight as hard as the Dems except when it comes to defending gun ownership. Im still shocked they actually found the balls to block Obamas SC pick.

I'm not sure that counts as ballsy. It's political suicide. They could have had a reasonably moderate judge that is pro gun and unlikely to make major waves with their TRAP plan for abortion restriction. Now that their nominee is Trump they're looking at having multiple judges nominated by Hillary, any or all of which could be the farthest left the court has ever seen and there's not one goddamn thing the republicans can do about it. After the shitfit they through about Garland, there's no way their getting away with the same shenanigans again.

[Espe]

So basically the governing philosophy of our country since it's founding?

Many of our founding fathers were desists, agnostics and atheists, as you should know.

They were intelligent people.

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I've heard rumor that the next Republican soundbite will be with regards to bringing back prohibition.

Don't even get them started on "the blacks" at the moment.

What a coalition the Republicans have built themselves

[Adam Jensen]

Christianity has nothing to do with the US Constitution. Nothing says the US is a country under Jesus - the founding fathers used "God" not "Jesus." They believed in a creator because it made sense in terms of a lot of big questions that people didn't understand 2-300 years ago. But they were not beholden to Christian ideology of the time, let along the insanity of the Christian Right.

Yeah this is a time with absolutely no concept of the Big Bang or the idea that life comes from nonliving molecules. Even the least religious people at the time would probably believe in some creator.

Hell I believe in a creator. 10^22 creators actually. The stars and their precursors. I just don't grant sentience, omnipotence or supernatural power to them. My point is "creator" is a very vague term that might not mean "God" to everyone.

[Drakain]

Fuck if I know. I left the party over trump and their positions on social issues.

[cubby]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/us...on-issues.html

By this point I think the Republican party leaders are out of touch with the majority of their voter base.

An excerpt from the article:

"The platform demands that lawmakers use religion as a guide when legislating, stipulating “that man-made law must be consistent with God-given, natural rights.”

It also encourages the teaching of the Bible in public schools because, the amendment said, a good understanding of its contents is “indispensable for the development of an educated citizenry.”

The pornography provision was not in an initial draft that the Republican National Committee drew up and released on Sunday. But delegates added it on Monday at the same time they were inserting many of the amendments opposing gay and transgender rights. It calls pornography “a public menace” that is especially harmful to children".

It's like they are deliberately trying to lose the election as evidenced by trying to adopt far right policies in the past or to push away any moderates they had left.

Also since when is the US a theocracy?

They not only had the abyss look back, they jumped into it's maw. They are done for this year. Good chance to lose the Senate. Highly improbable chance to lose the House.

[Caolela]

No, I mean this is standard Republican practice. For instance, the Texas GOP in 2012 added explicit statements that they oppose instructing students in critical thinking because it undermines the ability of parents to shape their world view. ...

Isn't that basically what Shrub's "No Child Left Behind" (On The Short Bus) did? They don't want people to critically think now. They want them just smart enough to work at their Wal-Marts but not smart enough to know how to change things. Conformity and bandwagonism, no questioning of authority or the status quo.

[kail]

Without Christianity the U.S. Constitution wouldn't exist.

How so? All you need is politicians with a pen and plenty of paper. The Constitution is not a religious document.

[Laerrus]

You are seeing a once great party in it's death throes, in a few decades the GOP will cease to be and instead be relegated to the pages of history. Signs of splintering are already taking place and it won't be long before you see the Libertarian element jump ship and fall in line with one of the 3rd parties.

[Tijuana]

Question :


Answer :
Being stuck in a 1950s mindset.


I've heard rumor that the next Republican soundbite will be with regards to bringing back prohibition.

Christians voted Democrat in the 1950s. The religious right is a creation of Reagan in his first successful election, in 1979. He saw a huge demographic that nobody cared about and flipped them all his way. The problem is they shrink the party 2 people for every 1 they bring in. Actual conservatives and libertarians have no voice in this government.

[May90]

This is what they are doing, sadly:

[cubby]

Without Christianity the U.S. Constitution wouldn't exist.

Haahahahaaahahaaaahahaha. You know the United States was formed to FLEE religious prosecution and that separating religion from government was paramount to the framers intentions, right?

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You are seeing a once great party in it's death throes, in a few decades the GOP will cease to be and instead be relegated to the pages of history. Signs of splintering are already taking place and it won't be long before you see the Libertarian element jump ship and fall in line with one of the 3rd parties.

If the GOP doesn't in fact survive the Trumper, then it will be curious to see if they A) implode, and B) form a new party.

[Deletedaccount1]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/13/us...on-issues.html

By this point I think the Republican party leaders are out of touch with the majority of their voter base.

All of the things listed there are things that the majority of the party voter base agrees with.

[Tijuana]

This is what they are doing, sadly:

LOL Rick Perry. I will never forget how stupid he looked in the prior election, and how hilarious it was this time he made his comeback sporting horn rimmed glasses. Dude basically just said, "Hey, maybe they won't think I'm stupid if I wear glasses".

[May90]

LOL Rick Perry. I will never forget how stupid he looked in the prior election, and how hilarious it was this time he made his comeback sporting horn rimmed glasses. Dude basically just said, "Hey, maybe they won't think I'm stupid if I wear glasses".

I think his original "Strong" video was like, what, in top 5 most disliked Youtube videos of all time? That was pretty funny.

[Tempguy]

They are just doubling down on crazy.

Cause Trump getting nominated wasn't warning enough their policies have flaws?

[Caolela]

I don't think that was its intent, regardless of what the result may have been.

I think that was absolutely the intent. Why else would they have been continuing it when we've seen the results for years now?

[Deletedaccount1]

I think that was absolutely the intent. Why else would they have been continuing it when we've seen the results for years now?

It doesn't exist in practice anymore.

[Raynre Valence]

It's called bait and switch. The RNC puts that language in there to get the Christians in a frenzy so they think Baby Jesus is guiding the country if a Republican becomes president.

Then the RNC turns around and ignores half of it. Christians in turn forget that Republicans are just using them for cannon fodder and a piggy bank for nothing in return.

Repeat

See also: Democrats and minorities.

Both sides do it, because 90% of the electorate don't actually care to get involved in politics. It's the 1% that participate and the 9% that donate that actually dictate the country's direction. Everyone else just gets lathered up once every four years. So after an election they're expendable, until each sides needs to start making promises around the start of the election cycle.