Turets have no place in FPS

[Dukenukem]

The dwarf turret has 100% accuracy, wallhack, too much HP, superior range, DPS and can be repaired...
Im fine with simetra turrets as they are more like a point defence of small area, but the dwarfturret is simply a bit too much.

I would see the hero gone completely, but thats a bit too much to ask as he is having a bit of fanbase i think... so Wouldnt be better to nerf the accuracy and target aquire time a bit. If I play FPS I prefer to be murdered by real players, not AI controlled contraptions that has no place in this genre.

[fangless]

Well, they couldn't of made a TF2 clone without the Engineer :P

[ComputerNerd]

By that argument of being an FPS there is no room for melee, but we still have it.
Though I understand the frustration of a non-player controlled part.

[Sastank]

Well, they couldn't of made a TF2 clone without the Engineer :P

Well it's not a clone so :P
Misusing the word "clone" as so many other memers do

[Boogums]

The dwarf turret has 100% accuracy, wallhack, too much HP, superior range, DPS and can be repaired...
Im fine with simetra turrets as they are more like a point defence of small area, but the dwarfturret is simply a bit too much.

I would see the hero gone completely, but thats a bit too much to ask as he is having a bit of fanbase i think... so Wouldnt be better to nerf the accuracy and target aquire time a bit. If I play FPS I prefer to be murdered by real players, not AI controlled contraptions that has no place in this genre.

"I can't outsmart and easy to kill Ai controlled contraption."

I think the answer you'll find here is "git gud."

[Krazzorx]

He's still a very niche pick even with the advantages the turret has.

If it was that good, you'd see him picked on every team's defense phase. But you don't.

[oplawlz]

It's not gamebreaking, but I do think the turret needs some more weaknesses. Either a slower lockon or just make it susceptible to knockbacks, displacing a turret would be better counterplay than just shooting it.

[Nights]

Tbh, im not some super nerd nolife pro in OW, im around lv 105 now with 55% win ration and rank around 60 but i never head even slightest problem with that turrets rly. Only situation when we lry need to adjust was 6 dorfs in oposit team.

[Kaleredar]

Have a reinhardt tank the turret for about one and a half seconds while a pharah shoots said turret.

Congrats, you just nullified torbjorn.

Or if you don't want to play pharah, use a Mccree. Or 76. Or Junkrat. Or Widowmaker. Or hanzo. Or Genji. Or any hero without signifcant weapon damage dropoff.

And if you don't have a Reinhardt, have literally ANY TANK soak the damage. Winston can put down his shield. D.va can use her defense matrix. Zarya has her bubble. Roadhog can just sit there and tank it.



Stubbornly refusing to adapt to a situation can and should net you a loss.

[TITAN308]

Stubbornly refusing to adapt to a situation can and should net you a loss.

Pretty much this.

People who get wrecked by a 6 torb stack fall into same category.

"But damnit I want to play Genji! I don't want to switch!"

[Boogums]

Make it a 180 degree rotation and lower the range a tad. I mean it's a joke that it auto locks on at sniper range basically.

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Let me guess, you say EZ after every win?

No, only the ez ones.

[Eapoe]

Honestly, why does it feel like people that complain about Tor are people that try and 1v1 a turret while sitting in plain sight of it?

[Saverem]

100% agree, but they are so deeply into TF2's ass that they had to copy the Engi as well.

Pretty dumb that they'd copy the Engi but not their counter class, the Spy.

[OverwatchBuddy]

I agree with you 100%

[Eapoe]

I haven't really seen any sweet spots for Tor turrets. Most locations I've ever seen them they are easy to get down just ducking in and out of cover with a Pharah or even a Tracer when close enough to the corner. Maybe it's been fixed, but I've never been targeted by a wall clipping Tor. He's very easily countered by any team with a Rein or a flanker that can just press D>A>D>A while firing (reversed as needed). Hell, he's even a good Zarya players wet dream as they can easily bait the turret into charging the damage from her shield.

[Dequanacus]

The dwarf turret has 100% accuracy, wallhack, too much HP, superior range, DPS and can be repaired...
Im fine with simetra turrets as they are more like a point defence of small area, but the dwarfturret is simply a bit too much.

I would see the hero gone completely, but thats a bit too much to ask as he is having a bit of fanbase i think... so Wouldnt be better to nerf the accuracy and target aquire time a bit. If I play FPS I prefer to be murdered by real players, not AI controlled contraptions that has no place in this genre.

Don't assume that because you suck, a hero requires nerfing.

[Degrade]

The dwarf turret has 100% accuracy, wallhack, too much HP, superior range, DPS and can be repaired...
Im fine with simetra turrets as they are more like a point defence of small area, but the dwarfturret is simply a bit too much.

I would see the hero gone completely, but thats a bit too much to ask as he is having a bit of fanbase i think... so Wouldnt be better to nerf the accuracy and target aquire time a bit. If I play FPS I prefer to be murdered by real players, not AI controlled contraptions that has no place in this genre.

Nice opinion

[Stormspellz]

Have a reinhardt tank the turret for about one and a half seconds while a pharah shoots said turret.

Congrats, you just nullified torbjorn.

Or if you don't want to play pharah, use a Mccree. Or 76. Or Junkrat. Or Widowmaker. Or hanzo. Or Genji. Or any hero without signifcant weapon damage dropoff.

And if you don't have a Reinhardt, have literally ANY TANK soak the damage. Winston can put down his shield. D.va can use her defense matrix. Zarya has her bubble. Roadhog can just sit there and tank it.



Stubbornly refusing to adapt to a situation can and should net you a loss.

Sums things up rather nicely.

[Deleted]

The dwarf turret has 100% accuracy, wallhack, too much HP, superior range, DPS and can be repaired...
Im fine with simetra turrets as they are more like a point defence of small area, but the dwarfturret is simply a bit too much.

I would see the hero gone completely, but thats a bit too much to ask as he is having a bit of fanbase i think... so Wouldnt be better to nerf the accuracy and target aquire time a bit. If I play FPS I prefer to be murdered by real players, not AI controlled contraptions that has no place in this genre.

of all the things that are bad about this game, and there are many (and I still enjoy it!), Torb is not one of them.

His turret is not OP at all, it cant handle multi targets it dies easily. It really is a case of learn the map.

[DeadmanWalking]

The dwarf turret has 100% accuracy, wallhack, too much HP, superior range, DPS and can be repaired...
Im fine with simetra turrets as they are more like a point defence of small area, but the dwarfturret is simply a bit too much.

I would see the hero gone completely, but thats a bit too much to ask as he is having a bit of fanbase i think... so Wouldnt be better to nerf the accuracy and target aquire time a bit. If I play FPS I prefer to be murdered by real players, not AI controlled contraptions that has no place in this genre.

Shit, turrets don't last half a second in my mmr rating. They are a joke, tolb himself is more of a threat than his turret.

You are not going to have overwatch without turrets as it is based on team fortress and the turret was a big part of the game, so you can hang this up and just learn how to deal with them.

Here's a hint, use push to talk to tell your team where it is so they don't die to it too and it gets wiped out before you get back. Let your team lemming into it unaware and that turret is entirely your fault.